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RE: 100 days till snowbirding........ maybe not

Still have our FL trip planned in Christmas. This will be completely burned out by November. How do you know it'll be burnt out by November. Hey I'm all for optimism but why would you say that? SARS had 2 years to the last death. Spanish Flu (yes there are still odd cases) took 3 years for the bulk of it. So why do you for one minute think COVID-19 and all it's mutant strains will be wiped out by November? It's a bit like all the posts I read about "when the vaccine comes out". How can those folks be sure there will even be an effective vaccine. Again, it was partially developed we are told, but never used for SARS. Even our Flu vaccines each year are a guess as to which maybe 3 strains might be most prevalent to target. I wish I had the crystal ball on all this that some do. In the meantime, right or wrong advice from those that "seem" to know better than me, thank you to all who wear their masks to protect me as I do mine to protect you when out in public! Do you think you'll be able to enter the US?????? Will you???? WHY !!! Hey Tom, I'm by no means saying we'll be able to do anything or anything will happen, hence I don't have a crystal ball in all this like "some" seem to make statements implying they do! At the end of the day the USA has the right to keep us out of there same as other countries have same right to do so with their countries. As for WILL I? If I'm RVing then possibly, because I personally believe we are more socially distant than being in a SnB. We wear masks when we are out in public for groceries/gas, sanitize to the point our skin is almost dropping off, which begs the question if we'll have resistance to anything at the end of all this, and we tend to boondock remotely so ........... WHY? Why not if we are legally allowed to and we feel that the risk is no worse than staying home for our individual circumstances. At the end of the day it would be more in the interest financially I would think for the USA to open to Canadians than the other way around from a "travel perspective of dollar spending". Assuming the data of for every 2 Canadians heading south only 1 American heads into Canada. But again, I know absolutely nothing or diddly squat for sure so ....... I was just saying, why are people making the assumptions they are about being over by November, or a vaccine coming out, when none of us knows anything in that regards, and can only hope we are being guided right on the internationally worldwide general consensus to "wash/sanitize hands regularly", "keep social distance" and sneeze/cough into our bent elbows. That and being urged to wear masks to protect others, all of the aforementioned we try to follow. We are not about to predict anything. We do have a loose plan of "would like to do's", if things are safer and when opened up eventually. We aren't in anyway trying to cause an argument. Just curious how so many folks are so confident referencing taking an unknown side effects vaccine that will supposedly be here soon and having a timeframe for when this will all be over! Good luck, my wife's cousin is marred to an Canadian....... they have not been able to see each other since March. She works in Canada so they cannot get together till this ends. I know many,many Canadians and they are the best but in today's world I cannot see them and they cannot come here..... this sucks.
tomman58 07/12/20 07:03pm Snowbirds
RE: 100 days till snowbirding........ maybe not

Still have our FL trip planned in Christmas. This will be completely burned out by November. How do you know it'll be burnt out by November. Hey I'm all for optimism but why would you say that? SARS had 2 years to the last death. Spanish Flu (yes there are still odd cases) took 3 years for the bulk of it. So why do you for one minute think COVID-19 and all it's mutant strains will be wiped out by November? It's a bit like all the posts I read about "when the vaccine comes out". How can those folks be sure there will even be an effective vaccine. Again, it was partially developed we are told, but never used for SARS. Even our Flu vaccines each year are a guess as to which maybe 3 strains might be most prevalent to target. I wish I had the crystal ball on all this that some do. In the meantime, right or wrong advice from those that "seem" to know better than me, thank you to all who wear their masks to protect me as I do mine to protect you when out in public! Do you think you'll be able to enter the US?????? Will you???? WHY !!!
tomman58 07/12/20 03:11pm Snowbirds
100 days till snowbirding........ maybe not

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tomman58 07/11/20 01:19pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
100 days till snowbirding........ maybe not

Generally each year we take off in the first week of Nov. +/-. We normally travel to LA or to Az then back to Fl for the winter. We have a Jacuzzi a double slab for the TT, a shed and a flower patch. We hook up and do cards, pegs and jokers, bingo, pot lucks, dances and entertainment. All of which are not done without social distancing. We always laugh because at the card games many bring in candies and other treats then after a week of two they complain the cards are sticky. Point being it is a giant love fest with fun and great times. And a great place to get sick. BUT ....................... this year we are not in the hugs mode, we do the mask thing and don't linger at the stores and stay at our cottage up north as the virus tolls are very, very low. So Florida looks like a bust. We are being told by many in our park that they are not going to come and the Canadians are not allowed to come. What is your winter plans looking like?
tomman58 07/11/20 01:19pm Snowbirds
RE: 4th of July - what are you having?

We had Spiedies. I made pork ones this time... I vacuum pack them and freeze them. If you are curious, here's a link and if you google, you'll find all kinds of recipes. Spiedies Also good with salt potatoes Sounds like kabobs we do lamb ,chicken and beef. Like these because when we grill them on skewers we also have onions, green pepper, mushrooms and any other veggie. We have plenty of the meat packets on hand when camping.
tomman58 07/05/20 07:44am Camp Cooks and Connoisseurs
RE: 4th of July - what are you having?

All meals are quiet and just the two of us, the 4th is no different. Wife made a strawberry pie, potato salad , and cold spaghetti salad for our daughters family but they ate at their house as did we. We have not made dinner for friends nor family since March. We would love to visit friends in Canada but alas we cannot go there. We can't go to Europe and we are going to beaches or places where the masses are not doing anything to avoid the virus. After the 4th we may go to one of our more hidden spots to hang out and make a dinner over the campfire. It is the world we are being subjected to through ignorance.
tomman58 07/04/20 05:21pm Camp Cooks and Connoisseurs
RE: What will Canadians fo this fall/winter

There is so much stupidity here in the US we are not likely going to Fl this year or Az. It is really sad for our Canadian friends but they will be better off to stay out of the madness here. We left Fl ion early March, came home reset the trailer and headed to our house in the northern part of Michigan. Glad we did as here in our county there have been almost 9000 cases, up north 23 cases. We really want to travel somewhere in our TT but the risks are high is we go anywhere that we cannot just be by ourselves. We are happy to at least be staying well. My wife's cousin is married to a Canadian and they have not been able to see each other (she works in Canada) since March. Hope everyone can deal with this and we hope in the fall that our government takes a different tack, Heck we cannot even go abroad!
tomman58 07/03/20 07:20pm RVing in Mexico and South America
RE: Fighting zoning ordinances that hurt RV owners

As I stated before that our city mandates nothing bigger than 20' and it has to be behind the house. This in our are of heavily treed acre lots is quite doable. This is not a sub division but individual homes. I was president of the homeowners group for 15 years. We had not authority for demanding things but we did have the city keep our neighborhoods looking good and got may awards from the city and Washington. I guess what I am saying is living at a nicely groomed neighborhood is more important than making it look like a trailer park.
tomman58 06/28/20 07:21am Beginning RVing
RE: Fighting zoning ordinances that hurt RV owners

Where we live you can keep it in your back yard behind the back of your house. AND it needs to be under 20' in length. I know I really do not want to look at my neighbors TT and I take mine up North to our house there that is a vacation community at the lake. It is all cottages on large lots, perfect for TT storage as no one live year round next door. I really think it is the right thing to do if you can.
tomman58 06/25/20 08:03am Beginning RVing
RE: The more I learn, the more I realize what I don't know

One other thing about a TT vs 5er, you have a pick up with a cap and with the Jayco Eagle I have it is as large as most 5er and then some. I admit that the Dmax pu makes you forget the TT is even behind the truck. We and several other folks here travel the US a lot and we spend 5 months in our TT a year and then some. So many campers only can camp for a few weeks a year and they are a far different bunch as their units just are not used.
tomman58 06/20/20 07:43am Fifth-Wheels
RE: The more I learn, the more I realize what I don't know

we've had a really large TT for years and never had a FW. Like it as we don't need to go up stairs for the bed or bath. That said 1. I rarely camp where we have to back in. I can do it but why? most have pull thrus and we don't unhook a lot when just on the road. 2. we always use truck stops as they are easy and I would think you'll have a diesel. I will say you get what you pay for in any rig although there are plenty that are not build well but built for looks. We go to RV shows and like to watch and listen to folks make comments on rigs that a really bad but they see one thing they like and latch on like a large fish in a pond. Never hurts here on this site to ask about the make and model you are thinking of. Good luck.
tomman58 06/19/20 08:02am Fifth-Wheels
michigan state parks

It was reported today in the Free Press.... n June 22, people will again be allowed to camp in state parks, the Michigan Department of Natural Resources announced. State parks had been closed to campers due to the coronavirus threat. You might want to use the net to get a reservation as our parks fill quickly. We used to go to Crystal Falls area to a state park there as the sites were larger and they had a small lake there. That are is fun to explore and you are in a good spot for even golf. Day trips to Superior were always fun too. this is the 5th time I've tryed to post this errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
tomman58 06/04/20 10:50am Travel Trailers
RE: Tesla Semi truck unveil & test ride set for Oct 26th !

Tusk is the "coal roller" of the rocket age...x2
tomman58 06/03/20 07:38am Tow Vehicles
RE: What $125,000 gets you in Germany

wow
tomman58 06/02/20 08:16am Class A Motorhomes
RE: MI extended stay at home

And the daily death number continues to decline as it has for 4 weeks now. Michigan has been one of the best states the last 4 weeks for declining deaths. I guess we know who to thank for that incentive and thanks to all of us Michiganders hoping for a better outcome. Time to go fishing up north.... yep 12' row boat qualifies for social distancing !!
tomman58 05/26/20 10:32am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: MI extended stay at home

This virus is new enough that there is very little data available. The health community cannot come to any agreement as to what works and what doesn't. It is also doubtful that a vaccine (tested) will be available anytime soon. Here in Michigan, we have a loophole in the emergency powers available to our Governor, and she has taken full advantage of this. The majority of cases center in the Detroit area, but the lock-step lock down strangles the whole state. It appears that Our Leader may be angling for a possible position in the next federal election. Just MHO. The ENTIRE southern part of the state as in south of the thumb are still very much hot beds and so is northern Illinois and Ohio. This stay at home policy does error on the conservative side but make no mistake our governor is looking out for you and the demands on our hospitals and medical staffing. If the self-righteous and greedy legislature had their way you would be in the bars and casinos now and the second wave could get its grasp and be far worse than the first. I think from those that know her that this state is her passion and the people here. She is one with both feet on the ground and is far more intelligent than any past offerings I have known. (think Flint). Are you taking about the “hotbed” that has been made up. Watch the video I posted of the head of public health for Chicago. On TV she said that if you are in hospice and have 2 weeks to live, and then you are tested positive for Covid that will be the cause of death! I had to watch the video twice. The numbers cannot be trusted and neither can the experts. They have an agenda and it’s not for the public! It’s about $$$ The death count dispute is a rabbit hole I refuse to follow you down. It's a shiny object being used to captivate the minds of the cognitively impaired and/or the dishonest. The numbers do vary NPR reported today that the real number of deaths is about 130,000. NPR is normally a good source of info. Believe in the stats or not that is your choice but for me Michigan has a good plan so far and we plan to stay in a county that has only 20 cases and not where our home is in Oakland county with over 8200 cases and almost 1000 dead thanks. Use safe distance and ware a mask is the order of the day!
tomman58 05/26/20 07:42am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: MI extended stay at home

This virus is new enough that there is very little data available. The health community cannot come to any agreement as to what works and what doesn't. It is also doubtful that a vaccine (tested) will be available anytime soon. Here in Michigan, we have a loophole in the emergency powers available to our Governor, and she has taken full advantage of this. The majority of cases center in the Detroit area, but the lock-step lock down strangles the whole state. It appears that Our Leader may be angling for a possible position in the next federal election. Just MHO. The ENTIRE southern part of the state as in south of the thumb are still very much hot beds and so is northern Illinois and Ohio. This stay at home policy does error on the conservative side but make no mistake our governor is looking out for you and the demands on our hospitals and medical staffing. If the self-righteous and greedy legislature had their way you would be in the bars and casinos now and the second wave could get its grasp and be far worse than the first. I think from those that know her that this state is her passion and the people here. She is one with both feet on the ground and is far more intelligent than any past offerings I have known. (think Flint).
tomman58 05/25/20 12:40pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: MI extended stay at home

Really. I am going on 80 with asthma and wore one all day yesterday with it in the 90s. Pretty poor excuse. If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem. I don't wear a mask at home as there isn't anyone here but my wife. If I need to visit a neighbor I wear a mask. It is not a Michigan request it is an order. As for all those "smart" people telling us to resist , defy the governor's order....... go back to your own states live it up crowd into those bars and beaches and casinos................... We will talk in a few weeks and see if that was a good idea but for te time being we'll do as our governor has mandated. We don't like the stay at home order but she has been right all along and has been prudent in opening those low incident places. We are Michiganders we have suffered through far worse than a stay home order! We do the right thing for each other and BTW over 70% are min favor of her handling of this horrible virus a far better percentile than the Washington leadership. Bottom line we will camp dry and that way we will stay at national forests areas away from others. Go party if you wish just leave us out of it and wear a mask here, we will see if she is right or to conservative in a couple weeks, enjoy your experiment
tomman58 05/25/20 07:47am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: What TC truly sleeps 4 adults ?

This would be listed as cruel and unusual punishment! LOL A TT makes a better deal and a far more enjoyable outing, Of course, if we found TTs more enjoyable, we’d have them. As you implied, they are cheaper. Sleeping is only one part of a trip. A couple of cold rainy days will enlighten you.
tomman58 05/22/20 06:51am Truck Campers
RE: What TC truly sleeps 4 adults ?

This would be listed as cruel and unusual punishment! LOL A TT makes a better deal and a far more enjoyable outing,
tomman58 05/21/20 06:25am Truck Campers
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