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RE: GM's Max Trailering Package

What's my question? Not sure, but am hoping someone can chime in on GM's max trailering package. I'm looking primarily at '17s/'18s, but maybe somebody could shed more light on the '19s/'20s as well? The NHT option is the big tow package on the 1500 truck. It comes with a higher rated 4300 rawr which is good for around 1900 lb in the bed payload. For a 9k trailer you will want the 6.2 engine with 420 hp and 460 torque 3.73 gear with the 6 speed tranny. Newer models come with the 10 speed tranny. Later model '14 and newer 1500 truck with the 5.3 are rated at 355 hp and 383 torque. Hands down more towing performance the the older 5.3 engines with the 4 speed autos. I use the wifes '16 1500 chevy 4wd 5.3 with 3.42 gears 6 speed tranny pulling a 10k trailer with a blue tractor with 8640 up to 9460 lbs on the trailers axles depending on which implements I have on the tractor. Its mostly flat with a few hills. The 5.3 does a much better job than the old 5.3 but for a rv trailer this size going across country the 6.2 engine/10 speed tranny/NHT option is the way to go. The 5.3 and 6.2 haven't changed any in the last 5-6 years. In those years GM has used the 6/8/10 speed tranny depending on year models.
JIMNLIN 10/25/20 07:50pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Maximum towing

OP...if you notice those that have the same 1500 Ram 5.7 hemi with 395 hp/410 torque 3.92 gears 10 speed tranny have no problems. Many folks seem to think all 1/2 ton trucks are the same in pulling performance and load carrying performance when in fact our LDT sized 1/2 ton trucks vary more in GVWR/GAWR than any other 1/2.....3/4.....one ton srw/drw trucks. Choose the std duty base engine 1/2 ton truck with those small 6xxxk gvwr and tiny 3400-3600 rawr no tow package wrong gears will not get the job done for those size trailers You have the right tool for the job so hook up and enjoy the ride.
JIMNLIN 10/24/20 06:32am Tow Vehicles
RE: 5th wheel adapter for goose neck

Just something I have noticed around in campgrounds but why do some people convert their 5er to a goose neck? Is there a difference in towing or is it usually done by folks that own additional goose neck trailers so they don't need to switch hitches in truck bed? Just curious I have GN trailers and a 5th wheel rv trailer...and have had 5th wheel flatdeck trailers. Its no problem for me anyway to switch hitches or any major difference in the way the combo tows. Everyone that uses a GN adapter has different reasons for doing so but I would bet they have other trailer types also. I also see folks using GN adapters at events like rodeo's....farm sales/stock yards/fair grounds/all types work events where one might need a rv camper to stay a few nites. All kinds of reasons GN adapters are being used.
JIMNLIN 10/23/20 11:59am Fifth-Wheels
RE: I need new Tires

So... no links can be found on google dispelling claims of zero issues from either points pro or con.
JIMNLIN 10/21/20 01:31pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: How to winterize batteries on the TT?

Depends on your trailers converter. Some can trickle charges correctly ...others not so. We winterize for 6-7 months and I've found out the hard way I'm better off taking them out and plug them in to a trickle charger in my garage. My garage never freezes unlike my trailer shed. If you leave them plugged in to a converter be sure and check them till your sure things are charging as they should.
JIMNLIN 10/21/20 06:28am Travel Trailers
RE: I need new Tires

One person makes a claim about their brand tires with no proof of that claim. ...but wants other folks to back up their claims. 'course we could make claims like that about any product. Mine was always the best....till I googled it
JIMNLIN 10/21/20 06:19am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Halloween Or Not

1974 was the last year we saw a trick or treater. We lived in town back then and would have lots of kids. Kids would be better off without all the candy/sugar anywayz. And the times we could safely let the kids consume home made goodies is long past. I see both small towns near me don't recommend the door to door thing this year because of the virus but have several church and or city service building set up and have proper covid-19 clothed adults do the passing out of package goodies donated from local merchants and donated monies for buying them.
JIMNLIN 10/19/20 08:10am Around the Campfire
RE: Considering building camper from scratch...

Depending on the units size by the time you finish a respectable looking camper you can have several thousand invested. One question you may want to look at is "are you expecting to resell" at some point. Will the unit even sell. Some years back we had a member who built his own and had pictures every so often. What he built was pretty shoddy looking and TC I sure wouldn't be interested in. Make your plans and run a cost analysis...then add about 20 percent. Even good plans can change as your building a structure and adding appliances and more options.
JIMNLIN 10/19/20 06:57am Truck Campers
RE: camping sites for a 42' fifth wheel?

You will have to do more leg work looking for your next campsite as you travel around...And will you be camping or glamping. I would start now before you buy. Call and ask a few places where you might lie to camp. We all don't RV for the same reasons nor do others like to camp where I do. My 28 RK is 31' 11" long and many favorite places our previous 26' 5th wheel camper worked fine now we have to find other less likely places. Hell if I could swing the bucks I would go back to a truck camper and go where I want. Make those calls first.
JIMNLIN 10/18/20 06:49pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: Dualie vs SRW benefits?

Why would you go dualie then? I figured SRW with 6.7' bed would be better driving w/o the 5th attached, better to get in and out of parking lots etc... AS one poster say the 3500 srw has a 7000 rawr = around 3500-3600 lb max load in the bed payloads. The 3500 DRW has those big 9750 lb RAWR for approx 6000-6200 lbs in the bed payloads. The trucks rear axle will carry all the trailer hitch load plus other necessary junk we throw in the truck so how much weight are you carrying. The SRW/DRW have the same engine tranny so both will pull about the same weight.
JIMNLIN 10/17/20 06:14am Fifth-Wheels
RE: Are other drivers killing your RV experience?

Got my DL in '58. One thing I've noticed in all these years is a lack of motor vehicle code enforcement in towns and big cities compared to number of LEO's/miles of roads back in the '50s/60s . Lot more highways and lot more drivers on the roads driving like they want. Let er' rip. Also back then fines would dent the ol' pocket book unlike today.
JIMNLIN 10/16/20 09:15pm General RVing Issues
RE: Preferrred Water Heater

Having owned three truck campers and three 5th wheel rv trailers since '68 to present I like the brand that came in it. Like which brand of truck do you like. I like the one I own.
JIMNLIN 10/16/20 08:40am General RVing Issues
RE: How often..

Averages around every 7 years and 50k-55k miles with 16" LT E. Same with other bumper pull/GN non rv trailers with 15"/16" tires. Non of my trailer sit in the sun when not being used.
JIMNLIN 10/15/20 06:30pm Travel Trailers
RE: Truck Camper Weight...I know, I know

If you are talking about GAWR I agree . Your original statement referred to GCWR , to which I don't agree . Just for the record which is it . GCWR can be more than 2 times the GAWR of a light duty truck . I mentioned a F350 DRW has 15990 lb of braking performance and a 21k triaxle trailer with 7k axles = 21000 lb of braking. This would give the combo 36990 lb of braking performance which will be a GCW or GCWR number. If the axles, combined, can both carry and stop 7,250, and the engine can pull more than twice that, why is the GVWR 250 pounds below the combined axle ratings? The truck mfg may choose any GAWR or a GVWR they want. However they can't issue a GVWR higher than the sum of the axle ratings. They may also choose to sum the axle ratings for the trucks GVWR. Why does a truck mfg do this ?? That is a point no one knows other than the vehicle mfg and always creates lots of opinions/theories.
JIMNLIN 10/15/20 01:21pm Truck Campers
RE: Truck Camper Weight...I know, I know

Where did that information come from on min braking performance on light duty trucks . I have not seen that published .. Jeez..... its just common knowledge around haulers websites. however.. paste and copy from a NHTSA website several years ago when the question was asked what components are inspected per the GAWRs. NHTSA home page (and other info I copy and paste to note pad) changes every so often and the info they post on that page, beyond a certain time, is lost in cyber space. NHTSA says this about components of the GAWR: "Gross Axle Weight Rating is the rated load-carrying capacity of an individual axle and wheel assembly. (It represents the load that may be steadily sustained by the components in the system; i.e., tires, rims, hubs, bearing, axles, brakes, suspension, sub frame, etc. with the GAWR limited by the components with the lowest working rating". Trailer axles are no different per Dexter; Q&A *The Gross Axle Weight Rating (GAWR) of your running gear is determined by the lowest rated component in the assembly. The capacity of the wheel, tire, axle, brake, springs/rubber and hub are all considered. JMO but todays large brakes on our LDT size trucks are hands down more effective than the GAWRS as evident of those 30k-36k lb mfg tow ratings vs some years back.
JIMNLIN 10/14/20 07:25pm Truck Campers
RE: Bent Axle, or spindle welded on crooked?

Many axles/stubs get bent from pulling the trailer around a sharp corner and make contact with a curb or even a deep pothole. This will push the front of the wheel in.... bending the axle/stub in a toe in position. Or even push the wheel in at the bottom causing a out of camber issue (out at the top). Drop by a big rig trailer repair shop and talk with them about the problem. They will tell you what is wrong and the costs to bend the axle back in specs. I've had this done several times on my road trailers.
JIMNLIN 10/14/20 01:23pm Towing
RE: Truck Camper Weight...I know, I know

For truck campers, I'd want to know a lot more about the brake system before relying solely on axle ratings. The fact that an axle can carry more weight does not mean that the truck has the combined braking power to stop it! Braking on our size trucks determined by the vehicle FAWR and RAWR at a minimum. example ; F350 DRW with a 9900 rawr and 6000 fawr = 15900 lbs of braking performance at a minimum. A std cab 2wd one ton drw gazzer may weigh in the 8k range which leaves 7k + lbs in the bed payload...or braking for your big TC. One reason we see so many triaxle GN flatdecks with 7k axles and tandem dual 10k/11k/12k axle out here on the road behind that same F350 DRW making monies. That 7k triaxle has 21000 lb of braking performance/etc.
JIMNLIN 10/14/20 12:59pm Truck Campers
RE: 5th wheel adapter for goose neck

I did inquire about safety chains and was told they were only required in Texas. I like to be on the cautious side and plan to get them. Yeah... in Oklahoma were required to use chains with a ball type hitch. "Coupling Device For Trailer, Semitrailer, Manufactured Home, or Towed Motor Vehicle" A. Every trailer, semitrailer, manufactured home, or towed motor vehicle shall be equipped with a coupling device....snip. 1. "snip. 2. Chains, cables or a safety device which provides strength, security of attachment and directional stability equal to or greater than that provided by safety chains and which prevent parting from the drawing vehicle should the regular coupling device break or otherwise become disengaged. The safety device shall be designed, constructed, and installed so that if the coupling device fails or becomes disconnected the coupling device will not drop to the ground. Most states require by them per code but there are a few states that recommend safety chains but no codes requiring them.
JIMNLIN 10/14/20 12:17pm Fifth-Wheels
RE: RAWR Question?

I bought a new '90 2500 LD 2wd 5.7 6 lug axle 7200 GVWR with the 9.5" semi floater long bed 4.10 gears. Towed doubles with it for 8 years. TB engine with a whoppin' 215 hp/300 torque. It had 235k miles and gave it to my 17 year old grand son who ran it up to 247k miles and sold to a 16 year old teen in his town. The last my GS heard of the old truck it had 310k miles and the 9.5" was the same....just gear oil changes. The wifes '16 1500 7200 GVWR chevy crew cab 4wd short bed 5.3 engine 6 speed 3.42 gears has the 9.5" semi floater with 6 lug axles. I have no idea how/if the material specs between the two rear axle assy has changed over the years but I hope her 1500 rear axle will also be as reliable as the old 2500 LD was. The only service I've done on the 2500 LD 9.5" axle is replacing axle seals. But I would say the axle shaft dia/bearings on the 2500 LD was huge compared to any semi float axle I've seen. Ran drag race cars in the late muscle car '60/'70 era so I've seen lots of busted/twisted axles. I see one of the Dmax/drag race teams used the 9.5" axle in their std cab short bed drag truck. Tough axle.
JIMNLIN 10/14/20 08:16am Tow Vehicles
RE: Truck Camper Weight...I know, I know

The newer Ram 3500 DRW have the uprated AAM 11.8" axle that some Cummins forum tech people have said is rated by AAM around 12k lbs. I've never seen or found any thing from AAM on the 11.8" ratings unlike their other axles. Maybe someone has found that info. A trucks RAWR is the lessor of a tire/wheel/rear spring pack/axle assy. Most DRW truck rawr weak link is the rear spring pack or OEM wheels. Axle assys and tires generally have lots of reserve above its rawr. Any calculations from a formula of this type are a estimate at best. Actual scaled axle weights tells the real story.
JIMNLIN 10/13/20 06:23am Truck Campers
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