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RE: EV alternative for light/medium duty trucks

Too many things do not make any sense. At a time when we are all being pushed into EVs, and electricity supply is constrained.... We have companies with warehouses full of computers running 24/7 To "mine" fake money. The electricity wasted doing this could have far better and more productive uses.. Then this fake money is sold to a greater fool for real money in the hopes that an even greater fool will come along and pay even more for it. So long as we as a society fall into this madness, I do not see how we can possibly affect the climate in a positive way. I have a long list of things that do not make any sense,,but this is enough for now
Huntindog 01/15/23 06:43pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Why consider 12v fridge for boondocking?

My Coach has an 18CF fridge. I have yet to see a 12V fridge that big. I have looked at the specs on some 8CF ones. They are remarkably similar in specs. All of them would drain a 100 AH Battle Born battery every day. So I am pretty sure an 18CF 12V would need two 100 AH batteries each day. To keep my current amount of headroom for bad events, I would need to add 3 Battle Born 100AH batteries. Then I would need to add enough solar to feed them. That is not happening. Not enough room on the roof, and my Solar controllers are maxed out. I am not interested in going on a electricity consumption diet. I will keep my gas fridge, thank you very much
Huntindog 01/15/23 10:04am Travel Trailers
RE: Why consider 12v fridge for boondocking?

I have what most would consider to be a healthy solar/battery system. But if I were to add a 12V fridge to the draw, I would come up short a lot.... And adding to what already have is not so easy. It would be quite expensive, and make my roof so full that I would not have room to do maintainence up there. Saying the additonal cost would be minimal. just shows that you do not have a clue as to what is involved. Another controller, another wire run up to the roof more fuses, more panels, more batteries more cables etc. Using what I consider to be quality stuff (to match what I already have), would be at least 3k. Probably closer to 4K If you really have a "healthy" solar/battery system, you shouldn't have any problem running a 12v fridge. I'm borderline with a 50w panel and a couple of basic 12v batteries. I'm light on solar but not by a large amount. Adding a 100w panel and it would cover it easily. That's a pretty minimal solar/battery system. So far I haven't bothered as we only boondock on occasion and running the generator for an hour or two for other purposes, typically gets the batteries back up where they belong. If you are looking at $3-4k to add an extra 100w of panels and maybe 1 extra battery, you are getting taken by your installer. First off, I installed my system, so I KNOW what I am TALKING about. Second and finally.... Your way of camping doesn't appeal to me anymore. If I still camped like you, I'd probably still be tent camping
Huntindog 01/15/23 04:36am Travel Trailers
RE: EV alternative for light/medium duty trucks

RVing comes in many flavors. It seems when discussing EVs as tow vehicles the only flavor of RVing many people want to focus on the hauling a >6000lbs TT/5th wheel on a multi day cross country trip. An EV is currently not a good TV for this flavor of RVing. Another flavor of RVing is hauling a <6000lb TT or an even lighter PU a few hrs from home to a campground for a weekend camping trip using their daily commuting vehicle as the TV. Is everyone willing to bet the current EVs could not fulfill this function? Don’t forget most of the population won’t be towing “the Ike” on a weekend camping trip. map40, Define long distance? Define heavy loads. OK, it is all relative. The heavier the load and the longer the distance, the more inconvenient EVs are. For example: Towing a small trailer (3500-5000#) with a F150 lightning extended range will do close to 200 - 225 miles at highway speeds. At that point you have to find a charging station, but most won't accommodate a truck and trailer, so you may have to drop the trailer, charge for 1 hour, hook up again and get on your way. Add to that "range anxiety" and the fact that CCS chargers are not the most reliable network, I would not wait until I have 25 miles left in the tank to charge, so now the range goes down to a usable 175 miles. If you go bigger (think Tesla Semi) you have a 900KWs and can do 500miles at 62mph. But to recharge you need a special charger (1000V) or 10 hours in a supercharger WITHOUT your trailer, and that is if your semi cab fits in the charger parking lot. So the Tesla Semi can only work between predetermined locations. Let's go smaller, you have a small trailer or a pop-up and you are towing with a Tesla, you range may go down between 30-50%, you may have around 180 miles of range, but being a small car you can drop the trailer and charge in a supercharger. Also where you live affects the equation. Fuel prices and temperatures affect the calculation. EVs excel in stop-and-go and low speed driving because of the high efficiency and regenerative braking. EVs work when they are less expensive and the savings justify the inconvenience (or the inconvenience is non-existent). For example, I drive an I3. I can drive my daily drive on battery, but if I ever have to go longer, I have a built-in generator that allows me to go as long as I need without ever charging. I very rarely use the generator, but it eliminates range anxiety and gives me complete freedom with no limitation. Every case is different, but in general terms, the heavier the vehicle and the longer the distance, the more problematic it becomes for the EVs. Hopefully this explains my point. The EV market today is not ruled by environmentalists, it is ruled by people who want a lower cost of ownership or want some of the advantages of the EVs (Speed, acceleration, charge it at home, etc) All this dropping the trailer to refuel.Sounds like great fun.:E I unhook my coach once. When I arrive at my destination:B
Huntindog 01/14/23 04:53pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Armada to Pull 33' Lightweight TT

Before even looking at the weights, A TT that size has a LOT of sail area. Perhaps a large pop up would give you the room you need, without the large sail. Probably be lighter as well.
Huntindog 01/14/23 04:39pm Tow Vehicles
RE: EV alternative for light/medium duty trucks

A few days ago the Wall Street Journal had an article about what it presently takes for renewables to supply power 24/7. Apparently it has been done on a small scale in several locations. The common theme was that it takes 3 times the capacity of a conventional power plant AND an incredible amount of batteries to achieve the level of reliability we are used to. They flat out concluded that it cannot be done with todays technology.. It would take too much real estate and cost way too much. So we are going headlong down a road that presently has a bad ending. Will a better way be developed?..... Maybe and maybe not. One thing is certain. Companies will only continue down this road if makes financial sense. Presently Governments are providing enough incentives to make it so. But even they cannot afford to do this at the level it will take to be green. One thing is certain. Buisinesses will not shoulder the cost alone, as long as they know it is not the ultimate solution. As they would be loath to pay for all the stranded costs of a failed experiment IF a better way forward is found.I assume there is an agenda or bias within the reporting. Post the article at length so we can have real comments. It wasn't a factual, in-depth article, it was on the "Opinions" page. https://www.wsj.com/articles/electric-vehicle-ev-power-grid-electricity-shortage-11652302212 BYW, this article is subscription/password based, but it's someone's opinion, same as anyone posting here.That is not the right article. The one I was talking about did not even mention EVs. Nor did I in my post Fair enough, but to avoid this it helps to actually post or quote the article. We have to guess. I imagine the article you're referencing is also someone's opinion.I did not take it as an opinion piece. It was not in the opinion section, and they quoted sources and used specific projects in different countries and businesses. I had a thought that I might be able to find it on my digital WSJ app. I was not. The oldest it shows is Jan.5 so I cannot PROVE it to everyones satisfaction.... But I think that any level headed person can see that it makes sense. The green proponents cannot deny the issue. They always state the solution will be found. All we need to to do is go all in. That is a BIG,BIG bet.
Huntindog 01/11/23 07:37am Tow Vehicles
RE: EV alternative for light/medium duty trucks

A few days ago the Wall Street Journal had an article about what it presently takes for renewables to supply power 24/7. Apparently it has been done on a small scale in several locations. The common theme was that it takes 3 times the capacity of a conventional power plant AND an incredible amount of batteries to achieve the level of reliability we are used to. They flat out concluded that it cannot be done with todays technology.. It would take too much real estate and cost way too much. So we are going headlong down a road that presently has a bad ending. Will a better way be developed?..... Maybe and maybe not. One thing is certain. Companies will only continue down this road if makes financial sense. Presently Governments are providing enough incentives to make it so. But even they cannot afford to do this at the level it will take to be green. One thing is certain. Buisinesses will not shoulder the cost alone, as long as they know it is not the ultimate solution. As they would be loath to pay for all the stranded costs of a failed experiment IF a better way forward is found.I assume there is an agenda or bias within the reporting.One should NEVER ASSume. It shows a closed mind. Or someone who will not even consider any facts that do not support your viewpoint. Post the article at length so we can have real comments.
Huntindog 01/11/23 03:57am Tow Vehicles
RE: EV alternative for light/medium duty trucks

A few days ago the Wall Street Journal had an article about what it presently takes for renewables to supply power 24/7. Apparently it has been done on a small scale in several locations. The common theme was that it takes 3 times the capacity of a conventional power plant AND an incredible amount of batteries to achieve the level of reliability we are used to. They flat out concluded that it cannot be done with todays technology.. It would take too much real estate and cost way too much. So we are going headlong down a road that presently has a bad ending. Will a better way be developed?..... Maybe and maybe not. One thing is certain. Companies will only continue down this road if makes financial sense. Presently Governments are providing enough incentives to make it so. But even they cannot afford to do this at the level it will take to be green. One thing is certain. Buisinesses will not shoulder the cost alone, as long as they know it is not the ultimate solution. As they would be loath to pay for all the stranded costs of a failed experiment IF a better way forward is found.I assume there is an agenda or bias within the reporting. Post the article at length so we can have real comments. It wasn't a factual, in-depth article, it was on the "Opinions" page. https://www.wsj.com/articles/electric-vehicle-ev-power-grid-electricity-shortage-11652302212 BYW, this article is subscription/password based, but it's someone's opinion, same as anyone posting here.That is not the right article. The one I was talking about did not even mention EVs. Nor did I in my post
Huntindog 01/10/23 04:58pm Tow Vehicles
RE: EV alternative for light/medium duty trucks

A few days ago the Wall Street Journal had an article about what it presently takes for renewables to supply power 24/7. Apparently it has been done on a small scale in several locations. The common theme was that it takes 3 times the capacity of a conventional power plant AND an incredible amount of batteries to achieve the level of reliability we are used to. They flat out concluded that it cannot be done with todays technology.. It would take too much real estate and cost way too much. So we are going headlong down a road that presently has a bad ending. Will a better way be developed?..... Maybe and maybe not. One thing is certain. Companies will only continue down this road if makes financial sense. Presently Governments are providing enough incentives to make it so. But even they cannot afford to do this at the level it will take to be green. One thing is certain. Buisinesses will not shoulder the cost alone, as long as they know it is not the ultimate solution. As they would be loath to pay for all the stranded costs of a failed experiment IF a better way forward is found. There are a many reports in favor as there are against them. If what the reports against it say is true, why are all automakers going into it? NO AUTOMAKER WOULD GO INTO EVS IF THE REAL CASE WAS THAT BAD. Will it replace ICEs? NO WAY, THE TECHNOLOGY IN ITS CURRENT PATH CAN'T. When we learn to evaluate things objectively with no preconceptions or politics we will understand that EVs are just a variant type of vehicle that thanks to the advance of technology is now getting into the masker after 140 of being invented (remember, EVs are older than ICEs).The automakers are being forced into it by the govt. with a carrot and stick aproach. The head of Toyota has pubilicly stated that the present path cannot succeed. He also said that many others in the biz say the same thing privately. I installed solar on my RV. I think it is cool to be able to run a lot of my RV off of it. But seeing what it took for just my RV... I just cannot see how it can scale up to replace the power generation we now enjoy... Especially with the way we waste power. Think about this: There are many companies with warehouses full of computers running nonstop.... To make imaginary money! It is so bad that Musk stopped taking bit coin because of the amount of electricity being consumed to produce it!
Huntindog 01/10/23 01:13am Tow Vehicles
RE: EV alternative for light/medium duty trucks

A few days ago the Wall Street Journal had an article about what it presently takes for renewables to supply power 24/7. Apparently it has been done on a small scale in several locations. The common theme was that it takes 3 times the capacity of a conventional power plant AND an incredible amount of batteries to achieve the level of reliability we are used to. They flat out concluded that it cannot be done with todays technology.. It would take too much real estate and cost way too much. So we are going headlong down a road that presently has a bad ending. Will a better way be developed?..... Maybe and maybe not. One thing is certain. Companies will only continue down this road if makes financial sense. Presently Governments are providing enough incentives to make it so. But even they cannot afford to do this at the level it will take to be green. One thing is certain. Buisinesses will not shoulder the cost alone, as long as they know it is not the ultimate solution. As they would be loath to pay for all the stranded costs of a failed experiment IF a better way forward is found.I assume there is an agenda or bias within the reporting. Post the article at length so we can have real comments. I threw that paper out. I subscribe so they pile up fast. And that doesn't make DW happy. I am sure it can be found... I will say that the WSJ is the only paoer I read, as it is quality journalism. I do not belive that they have an agenda. This article gave specifics on what countries and companies were involved in these cases. At any rate it makes sense to me. Just from what I had to do to my RV to get some solar power,,,I do not see how that could possibly be scaled up to replace the power generation we have now. Even if we carpeted the country with panels... Which is not feasable for several reasons
Huntindog 01/10/23 12:57am Tow Vehicles
RE: EV alternative for light/medium duty trucks

A few days ago the Wall Street Journal had an article about what it presently takes for renewables to supply power 24/7. Apparently it has been done on a small scale in several locations. The common theme was that it takes 3 times the capacity of a conventional power plant AND an incredible amount of batteries to achieve the level of reliability we are used to. They flat out concluded that it cannot be done with todays technology.. It would take too much real estate and cost way too much. So we are going headlong down a road that presently has a bad ending. Will a better way be developed?..... Maybe and maybe not. One thing is certain. Companies will only continue down this road if makes financial sense. Presently Governments are providing enough incentives to make it so. But even they cannot afford to do this at the level it will take to be green. One thing is certain. Buisinesses will not shoulder the cost alone, as long as they know it is not the ultimate solution. As they would be loath to pay for all the stranded costs of a failed experiment IF a better way forward is found.
Huntindog 01/09/23 07:20pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Why consider 12v fridge for boondocking?

I have what most would consider to be a healthy solar/battery system. But if I were to add a 12V fridge to the draw, I would come up short a lot.... And adding to what already have is not so easy. It would be quite expensive, and make my roof so full that I would not have room to do maintainence up there. Saying the additonal cost would be minimal. just shows that you do not have a clue as to what is involved. Another controller, another wire run up to the roof more fuses, more panels, more batteries more cables etc. Using what I consider to be quality stuff (to match what I already have), would be at least 3k. Probably closer to 4K With 1800 watts of solar and 800AH of Lithiums I don't think you'd need to do any upgrades for a 12 volt fridge.Maybe you wouldn't. But I would.
Huntindog 01/06/23 12:01pm Travel Trailers
RE: Why consider 12v fridge for boondocking?

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Huntindog 01/06/23 11:58am Travel Trailers
RE: Why consider 12v fridge for boondocking?

9 pages later, ^ here’s a good dose of common sense and truth. Being more “efficient” in one way doesn’t necessarily mean less costly. Sure both have different advantages and disadvantages but apples to apples, especially if considering replacing a perfectly good absorption fridge, it’s not even close. Truth depends heavily on the assumptions. Tearing out a relatively new perfectly functional appliance rarely makes sense, no matter how bad the existing technology is. Are you going to rip out the perfectly functional 5 speed transmission in your truck and retrofit one of the new 10 speed units because it's better...of course not. It's a silly comparison. If you are boondocking a lot with a single 12v starting battery and no solar, yeah, absorption is by far the better option but that's not a typical use pattern. Vast majority of RVs rarely operate away from shore power. For these rigs, 12v compressor fridges are better both in terms of efficiency but also in terms of better operation (faster cooldown, able to hold colder temps, larger interior volume, etc....). I'm betting this represents 80-90% of new RV buyers, so this is where the manufacturers are focused. For those who do a lot of boondocking, most will be installing a larger battery bank and solar anyway. Up sizing it to accommodate the relatively modest requirements of the 12v fridge is easy and doesn't incur a major cost. The cost difference between installing a couple of 200w panels and a couple of 300w panels, is pretty minimal. A few seasons of reduced propane use will cover the cost. I have what most would consider to be a healthy solar/battery system. But if I were to add a 12V fridge to the draw, I would come up short a lot.... And adding to what already have is not so easy. It would be quite expensive, and make my roof so full that I would not have room to do maintainence up there. Saying the additonal cost would be minimal. just shows that you do not have a clue as to what is involved. Another controller, another wire run up to the roof more fuses, more panels, more batteries more cables etc. Using what I consider to be quality stuff (to match what I already have), would be at least 3k. Probably closer to 4K
Huntindog 01/06/23 05:15am Travel Trailers
RE: Bearings packed

I am skeptical of the centrifical force and heat moving the grease into the bearings theory. For the past 45 years I have packed bearings the way my father showed me (He farmed until he 35) Hand pack the bearings, then smear a coating over the spindle and inside the hub. Not a lot, just a coating This is to prevent rust if moisture finds it's way inside. What I have noticed is that at the next service, that grease is pretty much where I put it last time. It is not evenly distributed the way it would be if this "theory" was fact. And I am in Phoenix AZ where it gets pretty hot... Just not hot enough for my grease to flow. Maybe I just don't drive fast enough for centrifical force to work either,:R
Huntindog 01/05/23 03:00pm Travel Trailers
RE: Bearings packed

Agreed, one can doo harm to seals with either device. Well sort of. The biggest issue is getting grease on brakes unless you totally over grease and pack the whole hub plumb full. Actually for that system to work as designed, one MUST fill the hub plumb full. You’re correct in that is what bearing buddy says. And in the past like 30 years ago, I thought that was the right answer. It also lead to grease always blowing past the seals. I would never recommend someone filling the entire cavity with grease, nor should you. I don’t believe there’s an exact science as to how much grease. But you sure want more than just 2 neatly packed bearings and a clean empty void between the bearings and you don’t want so much thst the spinning grease is continually in contact with the spindle. The right answer is somewhere in between. I typically put a few good size globs in the void along with generously packed bearings. Guessing maybe total of about 1/3 full. Totally full and bearing buddies is just a guarantee of grease getting pushed past the rear seal pretty quick once things heat up. First lets make sure we are talking about the same things. There are TWO systems that use grease zerks. Bearing Buddies which are for boat trailers. and EZ Lubes which are for trailers not meant to go in the water. The two sytems are often confused on forums with a lot of folks calling EZ Lubes bearing Buddies and vice versa. FWIW, I have owned two trailers with EZ lubes, and I installed Bearing Buddies on my boat trailer. First I will describe Bearing buddies. They came about to solve the problem of water getting into the bearings when a hot axle is plunged into cold water while launching the boat. This creates suction force inside the bearing cavity, and water is sucked past the seals. This system has a special cap that has a zerk that is screwed into a small spring loaded piston. This piston has markings on its outside A green ring and a red ring. As you pump grease in the hub the piston moves out, compressing it's spring. You pump grease in until the green ring appears. No more. The grease cavity will then be under slight pressure when it is dunked it the water, it cools rapidly, and the piston moves into the hub without sucking water in. This is a good system that solves a problem when used as designed. It is NOT for RV trailers Now EZ lubes. There is no spring piston in them. When grease is pumped in it follows a path that leads to a small opening feeding the inner bearing. Then you MUST continue pumping grease until it fills the entire hub, then and only then it will reach and enter the outer bearing.It will then exit around the zerk. Note: filling the hub cavity takes almost an entire tube for each hub! So as you can see, BOTH systems require the entire hub be filled plumb full of grease to function as designed. I won't get into all of the problems with EZ lubes, as I am tired of typing... I will just say that I do not use that feature.
Huntindog 01/04/23 05:13am Travel Trailers
RE: Bearings packed

Not in the NE, but the last time I did mine is when I was buying new tires. They did them for $30 each and it took them and extra 5-10 minutes per wheel. I watched them and they showed me how easy it is to do, but probably would have them do it again. It cannot be done right that fast. Or did they just use a grease gun and pump some into the hub via the zerk?
Huntindog 01/03/23 04:51pm Travel Trailers
RE: Bearings packed

Agreed, one can doo harm to seals with either device. Well sort of. The biggest issue is getting grease on brakes unless you totally over grease and pack the whole hub plumb full. Actually for that system to work as designed, one MUST fill the hub plumb full.
Huntindog 01/03/23 01:09pm Travel Trailers
RE: EV alternative for light/medium duty trucks

.... Bottom line we need to get off fossil fuels as fast as we can. Why?:W I know it's a joke but apparently somewhere between 7% and 14% of US adults are still climate change deniers. Scary isn't it? Weather forcasts are not accurate more than about a week out....Yet we are supposed to believe forcasts decades out? "Weather" and "climate" are not the same. It's a false comparison.So are you sayingthat they have nothing to do with one another?
Huntindog 01/03/23 07:57am Tow Vehicles
RE: EV alternative for light/medium duty trucks

.... Bottom line we need to get off fossil fuels as fast as we can. Why?:W I know it's a joke but apparently somewhere between 7% and 14% of US adults are still climate change deniers. Scary isn't it? Weather forcasts are not accurate more than about a week out....Yet we are supposed to believe forcasts decades out?
Huntindog 01/03/23 06:37am Tow Vehicles
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