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RE: Estes park colorado

What I like about Estes Park is that, if you want to do the "touristy" stuff, and take a walk around downtown you can. Besides the shops there, usually there's some sort of art festival going on, which can be entertaining. And of course Trail Ridge Road is a requirement. In 2019 it didn't open until a couple weekends after Memorial Day due to late season snows, and Old Fall River Road didn't open until July. Keep an eye on the weather forecasts for the time you plan to be out here. If it's later in the season, shouldn't be a problem. There are other, less traveled/fewer tourist areas. The Wild Basin Entrance to the park is lesser known, popular with us locals, but most tourists don't know about it. Some great hikes from that entrance, just as good as the hikes around the Bear Lake area. Further south from RMNP there's also the Indian Peaks Wilderness Area, and specifically the Brainard Lake area. Some magnificent hikes in this area as well; the vistas alone are worth it. Plan on snow on the ground there into July. Further south, all along the Peak to Peak Highway, are great FS access points for wonderful hikes. Rainbow lakes is one of them, the lakes are isolated, and there are trails that lead into the higher elevations above the City of Boulder watershed. Outside of Nederland, there's access to one of my favourites, the 4th of July CG and the hike to Arapaho Pass. It's a challenge due to elevation, but well worth it once up to the top of the pass. All this can be done from Estes Park as a day trip. So Estes Park is not necessarily "just" about Estes Park. ^^^^^^^^^^ Thom, Knows Colorado - all good info ^^^^^^^^^^
Busskipper 11/13/19 06:06am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Estes park colorado

Which campground with full hookups would you recommend around Estes Park Pulling a 26 footer Travel trailer Been looking on line and not that many good choices Thank you Have you looked over near Grand Lake - the West side - neat area and fewer people - the added Bonus is the daily drive over and Back of Trail Ridge. Another added bonus - Steamboat and possibly Snowy Range in WY. JMHO,
Busskipper 11/09/19 09:28am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Best route from Kentucky to Cody, Wyoming

I am sorry if this has been asked before. I cannot find anything, but have found ways to Yellowstone..... We are newbies with a 31 foot class 3 (2014 Itasca Spirit). We will not have a tow vehicle (after paying for the extra gas, it may be less expensive to just rent one when we get there.... using points from paying for all that gas).. : D I have seen some saying there are driving challenges no matter which way one gets to YS, but we are going to Cody. Are there any roads without major challenges? If I am driving, I tend to get a little skittish when the road is risky. Thank you all for any help. OK - many just say this is the way - just follow Google and go - Not so Fast - I say let's make this FUN - we will try to Stay off the I's and we will try to make the Drive as Good as the destination - Here is a MAP - - Now I'll try to get you there - here is a sort of guide/explanation of why and the Route; First the I's will get you to the Mississippi River and Hannibal (Tom Sawyer, Huck Finn territory!) then we will Take RT 36 to just this side of Colorado - Great Road - less Traffic - Fewer trucks and IMHO just more enjoyable. (If you are not into RT 36, then you could just do I-70 to Golden, CO - trust me RT 36 is Great) Having done both we have never had anyone not enjoy RT 36..... So now we've gotten you to Golden, Colorado, one way or the other - If you are looking to Enjoy Yellowstone and the Surrounds then You will Love this short drive into and up through Colorado - - if not then Golden Gate Canyon State Park just off Peak to Peak highway or Jeffco Park Fairgrounds - Most of these require a reservation but they also have Cancellations so you can still get in. After Golden I take you out RT 6 - this is a short drive that will get you to Idaho Springs and I-70 - Honest - One of My All Time Favorite Drives - follows Clear Creek into the Rockies - Truly a Great Welcome to the Rockies Road! Now when you get to Idaho Springs get on I-70 to RT 40 (Exit 233?) up to Granby, where you could enjoy Winter Park on the way or even the West side of RMNP at Grand Lake if you are up for it. If You feel like exploring more of Colorado either Now or after YNP, that will require another Post. Steamboat and Steamboat Lake SP is/are close as is Stagecoach SP both/all are Great. On up to a Short Drive over to the Snowy Range - just a short side drive - just one of those drives few take but once take will be remembered forever. Now on up to Shoshoni, WY with a possible CG on the River just as you enter Wind River Canyon - another one of those Drives I've always Loved ( the River runs North and the road rises as you head north - feels like the River is running Up hill - on to Thermopolis - Hot Springs if that's for you - then on up tp Cody - Thinking this is the end - no - no - no - From Cody be sure to make the drive on Chief Joseph and then the Beartooth before you leave - this is a great primer before getting into YNP. Note here in Cody you have a Wal*Mart so resupply - no Really things are super expensive in YNP - so get as much as you have space for as IMHO the Park is just not People Friendly when it comes to $ and selection. Just out of Cody is Buffalo Bill SP might try to get a reservation there - in Cody is the Buffalo Bill museum - which gets rave reviews - Even in the Summer it is smart to keep your Propane Filled, as it can get Cold (Even Snow :)) in YNP - Search you will find there are many spots to Boondock in the Park so if you are without reservations you can still do it - then when leaving you will head south through the Tetons and Just Beautiful. Then on to Jackson and out through Alpine to Flaming Gorge NRA before catching Dino NM and heading into Colorado or Utah. Hope this helps, ps - Colorado -
Busskipper 11/09/19 09:16am Roads and Routes
RE: Colorado campground for next summer

Thank you everyone for the responses. I am also looking at Westcliffe if anyone has any info. on that area and RV parks H E R E - Westcliffe is the link to reviews for campgrounds/RV parks in that area. Note that there are several RV parks to choose from, in addition to USFS CG. The views from the valley looking east are incredible, from just about anywhere in the valley. Good info from Thom - Keep in mind here you will not be able to quickly get a lot more elevation for those Cool Nights most of us seek in the Middle of the Summer! (Especially if you get a HOT week or Two) While it may cool some it will not be nearly as cool as Leadville which is just north of Buena Vista. Let us Know what you do and how it is,
Busskipper 11/05/19 09:20am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: South Dakota, July 2020

Hello, We’ve decided to do South Dakota and E Wyoming in July, 2020. Sturgis is 2nd week of August so that shouldn’t be a factor. We are going to delay Canada for another year. We are driving from PDX so 22 hours one way. First question is whether this is a worthwhile trip by RV? We always have the option of doing it lite in a Prius and moteling it. Lot of fuel each way for the trailer. That said, if worth it, we would do 14-16 days total. Figure 3 days of driving each way so that is 6 days. That leaves 8-10 for sightseeting. We want to see: The Badlands Wall, SD - Wounded Knee Museum Custer SP Mt Rushmore Crazy Horse Devil’s Tower Deadwood I can already see that is a lot of things to see and it could mean a lot of setting up and breaking down camp. Thoughts, suggestions on overall plans, itineraries, must-see sights, places to camp? We don’t have a generator (I guess we could get one) so if AC is a must we’ll need hookups. Otherwise we are happy to boondock for several days in a row. We did a similar trip in June, omitting Deadwood, Wounded Knee museum and Devils Tower (been there before) but adding Mt Rushmore, Wind Cave, Needles Highway and the 1880s train. You will have plenty of time to see all that in 8-10 days. I agree with wing_zealot that Wall Drug is 2-3 hours tops...The Badlands and the museum will add 3 hours too so it would be a day trip at the most. Before my trip, some had suggested we stay near Wall overnight and hit those attractions (Wall, Badlands) but we stayed in Custer the entire time and the drive from Custer wasn't bad. Custer would be My suggestion as for a place to stay. So much to do - easy to stay for Weeks; Needles Custer State Park Sylvan Lake Jewel Cave Cathedral Spires Dinosaurs Mt Rushmore Crazy Horse Buffalo Wind Cave Hike Fish Maybe even Pan for some Black Hills Gold Are just a few of the things to see and do while there - Wall Drug is a stop - but just that - stop - look - Go - Badlands for most, is a drive through on the way to Custer, suggest Sunset or Sunrise as the shadows will make it look great. Best thing about staying in Custer is that everyday you get to make a different Beautiful Drive into those Black Hills. No Wrong Choices,
Busskipper 11/04/19 07:08am Roads and Routes
RE: Camping near Moab, Utah Ken has pretty good info .............
Busskipper 10/22/19 07:21am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Trip report: High Country of the Eastern Sierra

Dan, As always - great images and a Perfect time of Year to be Out. Thanks for sharing, Bill
Busskipper 10/22/19 07:13am Public Lands, Boondocking and Dry Camping

Sorry - But - You do understand that Yellowstone is in the Rocky Mountains! Go to Wiki to see that for the most part YNP is a Mile High with and Average of 8,000 feet soooooo..... So will be at your lowest point a Mile High in the park! The good thing is that everything else is pretty high so it is not that big a deal. :) Not sure if this route is completely free of all perials along the way but IMHO it is extremely Tame - - Look it over to see if it might work - it Comes into Jackson along the River then up through the Tetons to Old Faithful. Hope this helps,
Busskipper 10/20/19 08:47am Roads and Routes
RE: Ray and Donna West Free RV Park, Muleshoe, TX

Leaving the Albuquerque Balloon Fiesta and heading eastward towards Austin. TX, we stopped at this free RV park in Muleshoe, TX. It was a set of 8 pull-thru spots with full hookups (water, 20/30/50 amp electric, and sewer). Free but there was a donation box. Even had a dumpster for trash. Our spot was pretty close to level that we were able to manually level the fifth wheel while still hitched to the truck. Our 44’ fifth wheel + 22’ truck fit fine on the spot. Video walk-thru of the RV parking: Link Here good info -
Busskipper 10/18/19 06:09am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Camping near Moab, Utah

We're planning a trip to Moab Utah in the spring of 2020. Looking for suggestions on rv parks. spring the best time to go to that area? Thanks for any advice you can give! Tony My links to this forum have somehow been screwed up - BUT - 4runnerguy used to have a sticky on Moab that is really Good so if you can connect better that I then maybe you can get the link, a lot on good info on EVERYTHING MOAB! Best of Luck,
Busskipper 10/17/19 12:20pm RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Texas to Ridgway CO late November

Possibly I might be crazy, but thinking of Ridgway CO during Thanksgiving week. 287 to Amarillo 87 to Raton NM, I-25 then 50 across to Montrose. Looks like a Good Route - one of the nice things is you could easily slide up to Buena Vista/Salida/Leadville if the weather in Ridgway was not good. Lot's to see and do in the area. Weather wise, is it a big gamble this time of year? Need a campground that has electricity cause we'd be going in a pop-up and need to be able to run a couple of space heaters. We've been to the state park there the summer. Will use their bathroom and shower facilities. Still will be smart to bring the Good Sleeping Bags - you know the Down Insulated ones - The higher the elevation the more chance for more cold and some snow :) so if it has snowed it likely melted at the lower elevations but has likely survived in the higher shaded areas/roads in the back country. Any thoughts.... Thom is an expert in these areas along with 4runnerguy so sending them a PM also might be a good idea. My situation is much different - Class "A" with a 4x4 toad makes my life pretty easy even in the cold Colorado Winter, in the snow:) Answered the PM and ran out of keystrokes so tried to fill in here. You are Young, smart and looking for an Adventure - think you will love it, with a little luck you might even get really Good Weather - even if you get snow - IMHO those Rocks look pretty Good wearing White. Some 20 + years ago on my first drive through the Rockies after Thanksgiving we drove RT 160 to Durango then on to Mesa Verde in December - with NO Snow - shoot that was before this Forum and I didn't even know I was supposed to be nervous about the Passes - :S The things I remembers was how much I loved the Low Sun and the Blue - Really Blue Sky - Having a Golden Eagle fly right over us as we drove up the Wolf Creek Pass on RT 160 - Being the only one out there and having everything to ourselves - rare now even in the Winter. We Love being in the Rockies during all the Seasons but in the Winter they are just special with the White stuff everywhere. Hope this is of some help,
Busskipper 10/17/19 11:06am Roads and Routes
RE: A hidden gem

Here is one that we came across completely by accident. Mountain View Speedway near Boone, NC. While everything else in the area is $40 plus & jammed up tight like rally camping this one is out in the open in the most delightful valley that one can imagine. $25PN with 30amp. The bad news is that there is no water & I did not see a sewer anywhere. We came for the 1/4 mile dirt track racing on a Saturday night. We were the only people camping there for 2 nights. Beautiful! Had the whole property to ourselves. By 10:30 on race night everyone was gone. Silence. 15 minutes from the crazyness of Boone. WHAT A GREAT AREA - So much to see and do within 50 miles of Boone - we have found a few Gem's in the area - mostly county or city owned Camp Grounds. Enjoy the time there.
Busskipper 10/13/19 08:50am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Help selecting East Coast location with lots of variables...

Hello Folks! This group has helped me select our last 3 vacations so I figured I'd come back for more ;-) BUT.. This one is a challenge for me to figure out. Here is the situation... We are looking for a location for next summer to spend a week vacation (unlike most trips where we plan 3 weeks in advance.. Ha!). However.. This year my extended family is interested in coming including my parents, brother, sister, and all of their kids. So it would be 6-8 adults and 5-7 kids ranging from 3-12 years old. The problem is we are the only camper / RV'ers. We need to find a location that has cabins or rental trailers for the rest. The challenge I am finding is trying to keep the cost down. This vacation is shifting from a family owned house in Ocean City NJ (Where the family spends multiple other trips over the summer) to wherever we pick to change it up and try something different. However, my family is not interested in spending $3-500 per night. Me and my immediate family have been camping and RV'ing now for many years. I am fully aware that most private parks have full accommodation trailers or cabins available, and that many state parks have rustic cabins. What I am looking for is opinion on 1- A good location to take a larger group like this where everyone will enjoy 2- where it will not be super expensive for my family to stay (we will be bringing our trailer) and 3- no further drive than about 3-4 hours from the Philadelphia area. Although if you have a thought about somewhere else east coast that might be 6-10 hour drive, please share that as well as I may be able to convince them.. ;-) Ideally the RV park / Campground would have plenty to do so that we could easily spend some days just in the park (pools, fishing, playgrounds, etc), however we also like to get out and see things, so near by attractions are desired as well. Please share your thoughts and experiences. I appreciate it! Using your list, this might/likely makes this next to Impossible - BUT - might just work with Williamsburg area - we have never rented cabins so I can't be of no help there. Other than the Beach there are few areas that allow you to have daily activities "CHEAP", Williamsburg has much to do and will certainly keep everyone Busy but is not "Cheap" if you do some of the less expensive historical tours - combined with Bush Gardens and I think there might be even more parks close, you can have fun but again this is a Pay to Play area. We have been doing a Family reunion for over 40 years in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware and while every now and then we discuss trying someplace different no one has ever found a place that all might love, so 15 years ago we finally Built a Family Compound there and while large we still need to rent another house and two of us bring our Campers. So other than everyone flying out West or SouthWest there are few areas in the East that will meet your qualifications, So I will follow this post to see what is decided, as this will not be easy. IMHO, you will not find anyplace other than something very similar to what you have now on the Jersey Shore, and my Advice would be to just continue to stay in your comfort zone, as the likelihood of finding something better is slim, and if you fail even a little the Egg will only be on Your Face. Best of Luck,
Busskipper 10/10/19 11:38am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Grand Canyon 2020

We're thinking of making it a late November trip during Thanksgiving break. Appears that the highs are in the 50's and the lows are in the mid-upper 20's. Will more than likely be staying at the South Rim since the North will already be closed for the season so is there typically any significant weather issues such as snow or ice that we might likely have to contend with? As for snow - not likely - BUT - if you are lucky it might - September, October and November are great months to visit Grand Canyon's South Rim. The crowds drop off dramatically after Labor Day, and the climate starts to dry out after the summer monsoons end, usually around mid-September. As the days grow shorter, the Canyon is bathed in gorgeous autumn light. IMHO this will be a great time to visit. Best of Luck
Busskipper 10/03/19 08:56am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Grand Canyon 2020

A good option for you would be to stay at Desert View, the NPS campground on the east end of the South Rim. Easy walk to the canyon wall and less crowded than Mather and Canyon Village. From there it is an easy run up to Zion, Bryce, etc. Think this might just be your ticket if you can get a reservation.
Busskipper 09/29/19 08:30am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Grand Canyon 2020

We're use to "balls to the wall" traveling to maximize location time. Since my son was born, we've been to Charleston, Black Hills, Destin, Glacier, Ouray/Silverton, Red River, Pike's Peak, Durango x 2, Jackson Hole and Davis Mtns. We usually get at least one might in a motel room and try to shut down by 8ish. He is a road warrior and isn't a complainer. We're in a position in life now where it is what it is. As long as the motel has a swimming pool, he's good to go and we take enough breaks to not all go stir crazy. Maybe when we retire we can slow down a bit and take in more of the journey. That being said, we thoroughly enjoy Colorado and they have some of the best state parks we've ever been to. Actually have been looking online at land in Colorado to buy where we could have a perm. place to vacation every year. Maybe put up an off grid yurt or something. Might just look into Hinsdale County, Lake City - Alpine Loop - Interesting statistic - .75 people per square Mile of Dirt = not very crowded But extremely Beautiful and Cool in the Summer Hinsdale County, CO -,_Colorado - This might work as your Yurt :) - I appreciate all the suggestions so far, please keep them coming. Having the Pop Up will definitely limit you travel style - Drive and go will make life easier - - Sorry might be getting carried away - Good Luck,
Busskipper 09/29/19 06:26am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Grand Canyon 2020 Looked through a few of your Images - Think you would really Enjoy the San Juan's for a Longer Summer Vacation - Just a thought or two on an area we have found to be just Wild and Beautiful, and not a National Park yet. Best of Luck,
Busskipper 09/28/19 09:52am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Grand Canyon 2020

I'm a slave to my son's school schedule for the next few years. Thanksgiving break is 11/22-12/1 and 10 days? Spring Break is 3/6-3/15. Again 10 days? Either of these dates would limit me to no North Rim camping, but would I be looking at the potential for the same "summer" crowds during those time periods? North rim is likely out and with you being a 1050 miles from the CG you need to work on a route that will not be extending the drive but taking advantage of the sites along the way, JMHO. Summer crowds are in the summer - BUT - Thanksgiving Crowds are at Thanksgiving so yes you will see a little more in the way of people but not nearly the crowds that you will see in the Summer. Again IMHO, the late Fall and the Early Spring are GREAT Times to be in the Southwest. You will love the Low Sun angle and the Deep Blue Sky - no filters needed. For November, would the full park be open for all activities weather permitting? I'm sure there is more to do than you can get done in the time set aside, so that should not be a Problem. If Nov is a real possibility, then maybe I could get my PNW fix on for the summer. Is that your Pacific North West Fix - ??? - Let me add a Map of a possible route that I think might work for you - it will require that you leave after work on the day before you had planned - that you push that first night to get 2-300 + miles down the road so as to be able to stretch the days of the trip. Map - I've taken the Liberty to Add a few drive throughs/stops along the way. Petrified Forest - Sedona - Grand Canyon (Get reservation in the park if Possible) just saves time, you will only sleep there. then out through the East to Horse Shoe to Page/Antelope Canyon - then on to Monument Valley - and with an exit to Canyon de Chelly and a dive through of Window Rock before heading Home Might work with a very aggressive scheduling/driving - :) - Likely the only place you will need reservations would be Sedona and Grand Canyon so the rest could be add ons if time allows. We all see things differently - when I was young with kids this is how we traveled, now maybe a little less rushed but not much :) Hope this is some help, just to let you know people do it -
Busskipper 09/28/19 08:03am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: February Camping From Long Island?

5 hours puts you in Ocean City, MD or Washington, DC. Neither place will have much going on in February. Better bet would be a cruise out of NYC. Funny - I was going to make those two Suggestions - maybe add Rehoboth Beach - all are Fun and Have a LOT GOING ON. DC is never boring - in a lifetime of living near and visiting often we still go and still enjoy and Discover. The Beach has become a year round destination - lot fewer people but you will still likely need reservations to get a Campsite - I'd look at Indian River Inlet in Delaware - right across from the Beach and close to both Rehobothe and OC - :) We all see things differently - if you want to go go go DC might work if you want to sit back relax and maybe catch a good meal the Beach would work. Best of luck, let us know what you decide.
Busskipper 09/27/19 07:11am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
RE: Grand Canyon 2020

Exploring trip to the area summer 2020. Here's what I know, or think I know. The South Rim is more commercialized than the North Rim, but does that mean that it's any less spectacular? The Grand Canyon is Spectacular, IMHO, every time I see it whether from the North or the South. Period. That said I do not enjoy crowds and have been to both multiple time - most of my better Memories over the last 50 years were from the North, just has more of what works for ME. On the South side you can come in from the East on RT 64 - much less traffic and it lets you sort of get into the park slowly - my feeling - before getting into the Heavy Commercialization and Crowds. We almost always come and go from this Entry - usually coming from Canyon de Chelly :) . The North Rim is higher elevation so the daytime temps will be more tolerable. Would be most interested in The NPS campground, and while they don't have hookups, there are generator hours. So, are daytime temps tolerable? Correct about elevation - BUT - in the hot season it is/can be still fairly Warm in the summer so to be Comfortable you May need a little A/C. That said in one of my visits when locating my son for a summer internship in Cali we hit Snow on the 2nd of June - it was Unbelievably Beautiful - and had all melted by 10:00, so just keep that in mind when deciding on where to focus your stay. You know what the say about the weather in the SouthWest - if you don't like it "Not to worry, it Will Change shortly" It will be easier/quicker to travel to Antelope Canyon/Horseshoe Bend, Zion and Grand Staircase Escalante from the North side. Utah and all those Sites you wish to see are not that close - it will take Time and a Good Road Map with a smart Route. If you are trying to list sites you have left many out - :) - State Parks, need to be researched and included - IMHO - as many are just Great - Monument Valley - HorseShoe Bend - Page - Lake Powell - Rt 128 and RT 12 - Green River ........ It's roughly 225 ish miles from North to South Rim so I don't want to spend entire trip burning up the roads driving back and forth You have not mentioned the amount of time or the time of Year you are doing this trip, both are important considerations in the Plan;). If you have looked at the Map you will see some of the slot Canyons and Page and HorseShoe are all on the way to the North Rim - then if leaving the North Rim you could head to Zion - out the Tunnel do Bryce and Kodachrome/Escalante/RT 12 on the way to Goblins and Capital Reef I'm trying to balance the trip where it works best for all of us. I'm into photography so I could easily spend all day wanting to do my thing, but I also have a wife and son that don't necessarily have the same idea of my fun. What do they want to do - your part of the trip will likely Require you to be up before Sunrise and set up for Sunsets so you can still do things - Hikes and site visits - with them :) Look over Stan's images as they may help in deciding your stops - - you can also search the web as he has more on Utah in other websites. So Much to see - So Much to Do and Never enough TIME To get the full experience, how much time should I reasonably expect to spend on this trip? I will easily have 2 1/2-3 weeks for this trip, but is there enough things to do in the area to keep us captivated, or will we get bored after a week or so? Simple answer is there is Never Enough Time. So what to do? Do your Homework - learn a LOT MORE - Plan a lot More - I think if I were you I'd focus on one area for doing what you want - then just plan on driving through the rest to be able to plan for the Next 5 or so trips. Sorry but you can see it in three weeks but it takes a Lifetime to become immersed in the SouthWest, just too much of it to do in three Weeks, IMHO. So pick out the few spots you want to See/Experience/Photograph give yourself some time there and then plan to Drive through a lot of it to just see it so you can Plan to do what suits you. We have found that for the state of Utah we Enjoy it Most in the Winter, Late Fall, Early Spring - fewer People - Not Hot - and with the Sun Low in the sky Just Beautiful. Any and all suggestions or comments will be greatly appreciated. Not sure if I helped or not - tried to address all of your concerns, Biggest thing is there is no Right or Wrong way to do this - It's BIG and it Beautiful - and it is really Varied - and there is a Lot of It so hard to make a Bad Decision - Just Do It. Hope this helps, be sure to report back so others can learn from your decisions :)
Busskipper 09/27/19 06:35am RV Parks, Campgrounds and Attractions
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