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RE: Changes to Snowbird lifestyle and Snowbird communitiess

I'd rather hunker down somewhere warm than somewhere cold. You do the same things you would at home, but no snow to shovel, etc. This is how we feel. We will do our trip north last April in reverse... stay as isolated as we can in our RV for the entire trip. Once we get to our warm spot we will hunker down, but our hunkering will be on an uncrowded beach instead of in front of the fireplace. It does seem a bit silly that our Canadian neighbors are prevented from doing the same thing. Dave It is strange that Canadians can fly in if they have a park model, stay the winter, then fly home, but driving in a self-contained RV (often stopping only for fuel, using their own 'facilities') to their destination is fearful, while college students have frat parties, football tailgates and some candidates are doing indoor rallies, all of which really can spread the disease. Unfortunately logical thinking is no longer part of the curriculum in any institution of learning from K through grad schools!
BarbaraOK 09/14/20 01:27pm Snowbirds
RE: Changes to Snowbird lifestyle and Snowbird communitiess

SD experts continue to debunk the media's twist on Sturgis. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/09/08/study-260-000-coronavirus-cases-likely-tied-sturgis-rally/5750587002/ Hmmmmm, the truth appears to have been blocked. Imagine that. Another source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielcassady/2020/09/12/did-the-sturgis-rally-cause-250000-coronavirus-cases-heres-why-experts-are-skeptical/#35e8cc6b73a1 Apparently we're not entitled to the truth. Believe what you wish but stats are stats and they predict up 400,000 dead before end of year. I cannot see going to our RV park and being in close proximity of our fellow campers without a bad outcome. We will just stay hunkered down this winter. and hopefully by next winter they will have a proper vaccine. I am not sure why you would say that is your only choice. I'd rather hunker down somewhere warm than somewhere cold. You don't have to do get-togethers. You do the same things you would at home, but no snow to shovel, etc. We're in the park, but we don't mingle with. everyone. We do our things, read, sew, take walks, go for drives out into the desert, etc. All of the grocery stores have curbside pickup, all of the restaurants have take out - at lot of them curbside. As to the thing with Sturgis, most people either don't understand anything about the event, or refuse to acknowledge the obvious. The real problem is that it's a super spreader event, and it only takes a few asymptomatic individuals to head out to the four corners of the wind and spread the disease along the way. Just like the small church wedding in Maine, with only a few people, has lead to over 140 cases in two states and they are still tracking new cases. In that case, the officiant went back to Vermont to his church and had services and refused to stop when he was told there was an outbreak at the wedding - so he passed it on to people at his Vermont church!
BarbaraOK 09/14/20 07:45am Snowbirds
RE: Changes to Snowbird lifestyle and Snowbird communitiess

This has been debunked by the SD Governor Kristi Noem who cited the use of cell phone data to come up with number. In reality, SD had 70 hospitalizations. . . Here is her statement: At one point, academic modeling also told us that South Dakota would have 10,000 COVID patients in the hospital at our peak. Today, we have less than 70. I look forward to good journalists, credible academics, and honest citizens repudiating this nonsense, Gov. Noem said. Dale Hospitalizations do not equal infections. Most individuals who are infected do not end up in the hospital. If you look at the positivity rate in both North Dakota and South Dakota you will see that they shot straight up following the event. And the 250,000 infections is for the entire country - - most people who attended Sturgis WEREN'T FROM THE DAKOTAS. They came from all over and spread the disease back as they returned. That is the same reason that colleges that reopen are setting up quarantine dorms, because public health officials all over the country have asked that students who become infected to be quarantined in place rather than sending them home, which results in the disease spreading all over, just like it did after Spring Break last March/April.
BarbaraOK 09/13/20 07:58am Snowbirds
RE: Changes to Snowbird lifestyle and Snowbird communitiess

As some one in a "Snowbird" area, who didn't get to leave last spring because of health problems with my hubby, let me give you an idea of what you'll find when you get here, if you are coming to the Mesa, AZ area. The whole country is Mandatory Masks when going into ANY place of business. Restaurants are open, with all staff wearing masks, and people wearing them in and out, only taking off masks when actually eating. Most of them have take-out/pickup. Some you do have to go in, but a lot will bring it out to the car. A lot of the fast food franchises have apps where you can pay ahead, which is what we do, and then have a couple of dollars ready for the delivery person to put in the tip jar if one is sitting on the ledge of the drive-thru. Some bars have opened, and then been quickly closed when patrons wouldn't follow distancing rules, no singing, no dancing, no performing, and reduced capacity. IOW, the college students swarmed the bars when they opened and posted pictures on social media, state liquor licensing department came in and PULLED THEIR LIQUOR LICENSES! Gyms are once again opened, but at greatly reduced capacity, masks required at all times, etc. About August 1st, Gov. Ducey got a little more serious, that's when he closed down gyms and bars state wide. And the numbers are going down, though with schools open again, there could be an uptick coming in the next couple of weeks. The colleges have set aside dorms to house students testing positive to be quarantined. No students are sent home as that would only spread the disease all over, which is what happened after Spring Break last March. All of the grocery stores have at least some of their stores that will bring your groceries out to the car and most have waived the pickup fee while the virus is still around. Most do have a minimum by, either $25 or $35 per order. In addition, a lot of things from Costco can be ordered online with 2-3 day shipping. All of the hospitals/clinics/labs seem to be open. Many no longer allow anyone to come in with the patient unless they are in a wheel chair. Dave has done several physician appointments with open phones so that I can hear what is being said, ask questions, provide answers as to medications/timing/diet, etc. All require patients to wear masks when in the facility. We haven't been to the dentist yet, trying to work up the courage to go sit with my mouth open for the 20 minutes or so for a cleaning! Salons are open, but everyone must wear a mask. Ours here in the park is not doing shampoos and only those with appointment allowed in. Right now it is just one stylist, another being added next month as the park starts to fill up again. Sept. 1st was the first day that people were allowed back in to our park. They closed in down in April and once people left, no coming back in until September. All of the open recreation in the park is open. Most of the 'indoor' things are open with Masks Required, limited seating, spacing, etc. They are not going to have 'fitness classes' this fall, but the Fitness Center is open (spaced out) for individual use. Pools are open, but number of limited depending upon the size of the pool and everyone NOT in the pool has to have a mask on. We did venture (both of us) inside one retail establishment, a Walgreens to get our Flu Vaccine, otherwise I do all of the errands and Dave stays home. We carry our masks with us when walking around the park in case we come upon others walking. Of course, until this week that has all be VERY LATE evening or VERY EARLY morning as it has been literally as HOT AS HELL here.:E If you have any questions that I can answer, please ask.
BarbaraOK 09/11/20 01:23pm Snowbirds
RE: Changes to Snowbird lifestyle and Snowbird communitiess

Since this is directed at me, I'll respond. In my opinion, you should both avoid going anywhere at all, then. Masks aren't 100% effective in preventing transmission, or no one would ever die after a simple sugical procedure from sepsis, but it happens. I also believe you can't penalize the vast majority of people because they "might" infect you, because you're more susceptible to catching something including coronavirus infections (like the seasonal flus and colds). How is EVERYONE wearing a mask penalizing any particular person? What is so horrible about wearing a mask, staying 6’ away from those you don’t have a close relationship with, practicing simple things that benefits everyone? The masks can provide 50-60% reduction in virus particles, plus deflect most particles upward instead of outward. So if you were a mask, and I wear a mask and we stay 6 ft apart, plus doing basic hygiene, the risk is greatly reduced. We now know it works. Where it is followed, infection rates go down. Where it is ignored, like Sturgis, we have infection rates Shoot up and projections of an addition 250,000 infections, which have already resulted in deaths.
BarbaraOK 09/10/20 04:07pm Snowbirds
RE: Changes to Snowbird lifestyle and Snowbird communitiess

It's up to the individual to decide what's right or acceptable for themselves. And that would be well and good EXCEPT the act of simply breathing out, if you are infected and contagious (usually before symptoms show) means that you can infect every individual within 4-5 meters of you. You might feel you are able to handle the disease. At 75, I am reasonably healthy, but know I'd probably get pretty sick. Hubby had quad by-pass this year with complications (why we spent the summer in AZ), and he's diabetic with only ~30% kidney function left - - it I get sick because I was near you, and give it to him, then he will die.
BarbaraOK 09/08/20 12:45pm Snowbirds
RE: Changes to Snowbird lifestyle and Snowbird communitiess

We never left Mesa last spring because my hubby had quad bypass surgery and had complications after - including having a pacemaker implanted in June. So we are living through the summer from Hell (literally the heat is setting records each day) this year. A promise of it finally breaking come next week - fingers crossed. We're starting to see a trickle of people coming in. Cal-Am resorts run a Sept-Dec one price special for the fall. Tuesday had some 30 rigs coming in and a few more have trickled in since then. So far several hundred are scheduled to come in on October 1st, usually the start of the season. The positivity rate and hospitalization rate for Maricopa County and the rest of Arizona is starting to go down. People finally got the message that they had a wear a mask. There have been no people having tirades at store entrances anymore, everyone is putting a mask on as they get out of their cars, grocery stores have special hours for seniors a few times a week, but most of the grocery stores also open at 6:00 am in the summer with very, very few people. Plus most of them have online ordering and pickup at the stores, which is what I'm doing most of the time. They re-opened gyms and bars last week, and promptly had to close some down for not following the rules - especially the bars in Scottsdale Old Town and Tempe. 20 somethings out partying and packing in with everyone shoulder to shoulder, no masks. Of course pictures up on social media and the next day the Liquor commission started PULLING LICENSES which really shuts things down! The park's fitness center reopens on Sunday, only every other station, wear a mask and wipe down your area when you leave. There will be no organized fitness class for the fall. The pools are open, limited number, mask on when not in the pool, etc. They started showing movies again, limited spacing, masks on. The grill will start serving again - 1/2 of the tables gone, outside eating only. Same for all of the restaurants in town, but I just get takeout and bring it home. I know that several groups that stayed all summer formed their own "protective bubbles" and I expect we will see that as more people return. Luckily, this area is very conducive to out-door entertaining. Just a matter of being really careful about wearing masks, wiping down, and doing a LOT of hand washing. Schools are reopening and that is the big question mark. Already have seen huge numbers of cases at ASU and UA. Both universities have now set up dorms to quarantine students who test positive. Publich Health officials are now asking colleges not to send sick students home, but to quarantine in place so they don't spread out around the country re-infecting areas that have gotten things under control. When you're in your 20s you think you will live forever.
BarbaraOK 09/04/20 07:23am Snowbirds
RE: Changes to Snowbird lifestyle and Snowbird communitiess

There were 30 rigs that pulled into our park yesterday - the park runs a fall special $1200 for Sept-Dec. Another 300 have reservations starting in Oct-Dec. But who knows if they will all show. I number of the park models owned by Canadians are up for sale, don't expect to see them back this winter.
BarbaraOK 09/03/20 08:32am Snowbirds
RE: Changes to Snowbird lifestyle and Snowbird communitiess

I'm ok with changes like Pot Lucks going away if that happens. I've been to many of them for the socializing aspect but I don't eat the food. We show up after the meal is done. I'm sure most of it is prepared in good sanitary conditions but I can't get the image out of my head of (insert name here) with the cigarette with a long ash hanging out of her mouth, hacking up a lung and wearing a sweater with dog and cat hair all over it. She's the one that prepared the Chili everyone is eating. No thanks. So I take it you don't eat restaurant food either? We don't do potluck because my hubby has chronic kidney disease, diabetes, heart disease (just had quad bypass last March and pacemaker implantation in June, so he is on a VERY low salt, sugar free, low fat diet and he can not eat onions unless they are in vinegar. I use non sodium/ non potassium baking power/baking soda, sucralose, etc. We grill a lot because everything has to be portioned control. It is been easier shopping lately because more and more things are now low-salt or salt free, except for soups. Canned soups usually have a lot of salt and have onions. I read. labels like crazy, which is why almost everything is from scratch at our house. It is working for us, he's getting better, but potlucks just can't be part of it. As for restaurants, we having been doing only take-out for the past 6 months, mostly breakfasts. And there are only a few very things he can have and only once a week at most. Again, I study nutrition menus for chain restaurants, and we really limit ourselves on other things asking for no salt to be added, or inquiring about onions. Again, with everything being closed down, it is usually just take out for breakfast from some of our favorite small places near us, with things we know are ok for him.
BarbaraOK 09/02/20 11:19pm Snowbirds
RE: Scottsdale in winter.......

FYI OP, the Barrett-Jackson collector car auction begins on January 16... in Scottsdale at Westworld. The biggest car auction on the planet. (On my Bucket List!!) JK That is very interesting, thanks, I will most likely be home by then resting during winter.... no obligations except to my hubby. If you aren't leaving until Jan 2nd and you plan to be home by Jan 16th, why not just fly down, spend a couple of days with your mom and fly back?
BarbaraOK 08/29/20 07:42am Snowbirds
RE: Scottsdale in winter.......

You need to look at Mesa for RV Parks. And what months are you coming, because Jan-March will be booked full in all the parks, assuming that Canadians are allowed south this winter. If not, then you might find some vacancies, but not in Scottsdale. Scottsdale = money.
BarbaraOK 08/26/20 09:22pm Snowbirds
RE: 2021-22 Florida and/or Arizona

Hey BarbaraOK - Too bad you went to the wrong Florida. I worked on the Eastern FL coast then owned a home and lived in the Keys. Now we winter on an island on the Gulf off western FL. No bugs, no buttheads (admittedly because there are no public entrances nearby :w). I love the mountains and rivers, but for me there’s nothing that matches the ocean. Dave I’m a west coast girl.
BarbaraOK 08/23/20 05:52pm Snowbirds
RE: 2021-22 Florida and/or Arizona

I keep looking for a beach in AZ but haven’t seen one yet. Can’t turn around in Florida without tripping over one. All depends on what you’re after. We happen to like the beaches on the Gulf of Mexico. Dave Colorado River have beaches all along it. Numerous lakes in Arizona also have beaches. No salt water places if that is what you want. We spent one winter in Florida - bugs, bugs, bugs, bugs everywhere. Plus the huge quantity of people coming from all over the east coast - short tempered, 'entitled' acting, plus businesses/Floridians that want the tourist dollars but not the tourists. Reminded me of Vermont - if you haven't been there for 400yrs, just leave your money, take your picture AND LEAVE. Ate dirty/dust every day when we spent part of the winter in the RGV and we don't do beer bashes and potlucks. Turns out Arizona desert, especially around Phoenix, is great place to spend the winter. Loads of restaurants/shopping, lots of museums, arts centers, concerts, and Spring Training in March with all ballparks being within a 45 minute drive.
BarbaraOK 08/23/20 08:26am Snowbirds
RE: For Alaskans going S... is snowbirding essential travel?

To OP, If they say no, what is your fall back plan?
BarbaraOK 08/15/20 07:24pm Snowbirds
RE: Covid 19 warning

Has anyone seen how the Covid death rates compare to death rates of the "regular" flu this season? https://www.sciencealert.com/the-us-death-rate-for-covid-19-is-50-times-higher-than-the-flu
BarbaraOK 08/07/20 07:26am Snowbirds
RE: Covid 19 warning

Tequila, I've had a flu shot every year for a very long time; but as I have gotten older, my doctor has prescribed a stronger flu shot covering more than one strain of the flu virus. Just started asking him questions about what he was giving me last year. Ha! Because flu can be so devastating for older people with other health problems, Medicare now covered the "extra strength" multi-strain vaccine. The better protected, the less Medicare will spend on hospitalizations. Preventative medicine is a great cost saver.
BarbaraOK 08/05/20 08:35am Snowbirds
RE: Covid 19 warning

I know the actual number of cases and deaths. It's shown on that website. . NO you don't know the actual number of cases and deaths. That's the problem, no one does. Especially not in the USA where testing is haphazard and in no way does anyone have actual number of deaths nor cases. Lots of people are dying at home, never have been tested, and depending upon age, cause of death can be listed as all sorts of things. And we now know that there were deaths in the country BEFORE the first identified case of Covid was reported in Washington State.
BarbaraOK 07/30/20 12:57pm Snowbirds
RE: Wanted, Snowbird park in Big Bend area.

Big Bend area is very cold due to higher elevation, not pleasant in Dec., Jan. and Feb. Parts are very high, others not so much. February is actually a great month to visit Big Bend before the Spring Breakers descend upon the park
BarbaraOK 07/28/20 04:02pm Snowbirds
RE: Covid 19 warning

“Prime Minister Trudeau should arm the border if necessary, to keep Americans away,” Reminds me of "The Mouse That Roared". Remember, we now have a grenade. Had it for 16 years now. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/grenade-scare-closes-us-border/ Wonder how that one ended? Sounds like the CBP folks were tougher on her, than our Royal Crea M Puffs. Your people called the CBP personnel, said we are sending her and the grenade back to you, she's your problem. I don't care how new you are to an area, The signs on the Interstate say Vancouver, BC! And you are warned ahead of time that you are nearing the border when you are given options of which way to go. If she really was so incompetent then she shouldn't be allowed to drive! Of course this was 16 years ago. And no, you don't have the grenade - CBP got it.
BarbaraOK 07/26/20 10:20am Snowbirds
RE: Covid 19 warning

We've gone to BJs a few times. Dave is on a very restrictive diet because of his kidneys, the diabetes, and heart conditions - - essential Kale and cardboard and he hates Kale. Plus, he can't eat ANY onions without severe, and I means severe, lower gastrointestinal tract flare up late at night. Try finding low salt anything without a lot of onions added to replace the salt - next to impossible. And it has gotten so that it is almost as much hassle trying to figure out what you can order from a place that will be on their takeout menu, plus going to get it, etc., that we just cook at home. But that's for the recommendation. We have found that Barros does delivery to our park and they do a nice white sauce pizza with chicken, so maybe once a month or so we will order that. We did get a Betty Crocker table pizza baker that is big enough to take a premade pizza base, add our own toppings and 10 minutes later it is done. No need to heat up the oven and it also make pretty good quesadellias using low sodium soft tortillas.
BarbaraOK 07/25/20 08:18pm Snowbirds
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