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RE: NorCal Mini Truck Camper Rally - April 2023

Rob, know that we had a most enjoyable time while there, the weather and campsite couldn’t have been better and the group was superb - like one big family! …You Sir are an awesome fella, and definitely ‘the multi-talented’ Renaissance Man !!… I thoroughly enjoyed our many multi-varied chats (lol !), and thanks for putting up with me :)
Our Best to You Sir,
Phil & Deb
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04/26/23 12:42pm |
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RE: $100,000 Host Campers

Wow, that Kodiac is an uber fine looking rig, though I was a bit surprised to find that it’s GVWR is at just 17.5k - JMO
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04/25/23 07:30pm |
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RE: $100,000 Host Campers

It's worth it to people who can afford it, I sure can't but what's the big deal?
Sign me up :) !…Just ordered loaded 4x4 6.7 5500 Ram (19.5k GVWR), while still able to get a decent trade on our 16, 3500 DRW 6.7..
With cost going UP (while used values keep only depreciating..…), I felt we were kinda at an inflection point, biting the bullet now while the opportunity still made viable sense, so now going the flatbed route, fully side skirted with built-in front & rear locking boxes…
I view the possibility of a future EV truck option with a 200 mi range rather dismal …JMO
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04/25/23 06:28pm |
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RE: SeeLevel tank monitor system

Another update. I previously stated our new SeeLevel gauges read in 1% increments.
That is false. While watching the fresh tank fill, the reading changes in 3 or 4% increments. Still way better than the old empty, 1/3, 2/3, full LEDs.
As I recall, it’s that the increments themselves are within 1% accuracy…
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04/25/23 06:12pm |
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RE: Just curious

https://i.imgur.com/645APO9l.jpg
PERFECT!!!!!!
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04/25/23 07:07am |
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RE: Just curious

Ok, since we have at least one water expert here: Are all filters created equal? I have a filter system from the RV Water Filter Store which uses a 1 micron sediment filter, and a .5 micron carbon filter. Are the ones from a cheaper source inferior?
Same question regarding residential fridge water dispenser filters. Thanks
JK
While I wouldn’t claim to be ‘expert’ on anything, understand that activated (by high heat) carbon is very good - it derived from various substrates and will remove organic and VOC compounds as well as chlorine, so definitely great bang for the buck!!…UV light (often redundant) will take care of organic matter as well…To take it even a step further requires reverse osmosis (invent by NASA for submarines), which will purify water down the the level of an ion, meaning down to the level of a charged particle or atom…
(…FWIW, Water in it’s purist form is considered to be a solvent - for instance pure rain water (say, as it precipitates…) partially combines with atmospheric carbon dioxide to become slightly carbonic (forming carbonic acid) by the time it finally hits the ground - this, a natural earth process (even more so in highly industrial CO2 emitting areas - results in what is called ‘acid rain’…somewhat of misnomer in my view..), so by the time the water percolates into the ground and migrates to municipal treating, it etches minerals from rocks to then be reclassified as ‘hard water’ - the clean water solvent effect (both absorbent and adsorbent) is highly beneficial at resolving toxins (via exosome transfer to interstitial fluids) within the body’s cells (e.g. 70% intra-cellular water content)….)
Some folks don’t like the taste of R.O. water because it’s devoid of minerals, though many bottlers of such (‘R.O.’ processed) will reintroduce certain minerals (e.g. magnesium, calcium…) to restore a more naturally occurring flavor….Back to your question, activated carbon processed water is good (mainly in my view) because it removes chlorine which is another (though often necessary in municipal sourced water) toxin…
Though a bit off-topic:Z, hope this kinda helps shine a light on your immediate question…
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04/24/23 01:06pm |
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RE: Question on switching to LiFePO4 batteries.

….I understand that storing them not fully charged is best;
But I haven't found anywhere on the internet where it quantifies the degradation in life due to starting out storage in a fully charged state.
I could be wrong, but from a distance it seems to me like the answer in which you seek is embedded within your own question - just saying…
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04/24/23 07:58am |
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RE: Just curious

Careful Mark, you might ‘trigger’ him - lol ??!!
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I don't think he has been "Un triggered" for the last three months :B
Just because the BS meter gets pegged full tilt by so many of the responses here is not an indicator of how I feel. It’s just that so many of y’all are either knowingly or unintentionally largely full of sheet.
And that doesn’t help people here with honest questions or issues that they are looking for help with….
I wholeheartedly agree! We can't have a discussion about water without it going south. Same old argument in almost every post on the truck camper forum. It gets old. Sorry if I rustled some feathers... Cheers! LOL
Sounds to me more like a recruiting call for a speech moderator (aka, opinion ‘gatekeeper’), some ‘special person’ capable of calling out balls & strikes on opinions and of possible ‘ill intent’ :h , good luck with that, because (based upon some member’s provocative historicity…), who here can claim they are worthy of a waiver??….I’ll also add here the obligatory JMO - time to grow up or simply ‘tune out’…
3 tons - Living in ‘Realville’…
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04/23/23 08:23pm |
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RE: Micro Air

Nice discussion guys, I don't have the fancy inverter/charger that you guys do so the side shoots in the discussion are remarkably interesting to me as I may go that way in the future.
Well, my ProSine 2.0 is a pass-thru type inverter, though it’s not of the ‘load-sharing’ (hybrid) variety…
However, based on comments from other’s, it appears that either type will intervene on suspect power (as they should!), of which can begin this nagging to-and-fro genny-inverter cycling…
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04/21/23 09:18am |
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RE: Just curious

For what it's worth, I'm an engineer for a water purification company, and I've been doing water testing for over 33 years. I routinely drink water from my TC tanks. I sanitize the tanks at the beginning of every season with standard sodium hypochlorite (household bleach) and then flush them. I do have a high quality carbon block filter with a dedicated faucet for a slower flow rate, just to remove the possibility of tasting any residual chlorine, which will not hurt you, but I don't like the taste. I routinely test the water, just to satisfy my curiosity and every time, it's fine. Also, I only fill my tanks with water from my home because the entire house has a water purification/softening system. I prefer showering in soft water, but even if you're just using regular city/ or mud district water, you'll be fine. Just FYI, we routinely test bottle water, just for fun. Some are excellent, some are not, depending on whether or not you're concerned with calcium carbonate. Typically "spring water" does not test as well as water filtered by reverse osmosis. Hope this helps.
As I had stated (in my previous…) trust that the subject of water quality can get to be a ‘Very Deep’ subject (e.g. irrespective of salutations), one deserving of far more attention than any brief commentary can provide…In some areas we may disagree or agree (can often become a ‘zero-sum’ debate…) but in my judgement (as with most other matters…), one should avoid outsourcing their own innate abilities and pursue their own study and further inquiry - determined by the objective (industrial, municipal, personal health..), water quality can truly by a multi-varied subject! JMHO,
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04/20/23 10:55pm |
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RE: How do you sanitize your fresh-water tank and lines?

Ok, so what do you do with well water? Buy bottled water to drink?
Our wells in our Oregon property was less than 20'... Wonderful water!
As a kid all the farms I visited and lived atl were on wells...That was down in the Fresno area, some of the water tasted like sulphur but we all drank it. Cows lived right over some of the wells....
For me, that hose and the place I get water from is critical and has been for over 50 years of RV and trailers. I always make darn sure that hose is MINE and I make sure it does not touch any ****...
Jim.
Ha! Well Jim, there you go again injecting a bit of sorely needed common sense !! :S
FWIW, my dear old Grandad (RIP) was a farmer and a willow branch ‘Well Witcher’ (in today’s modern vernacular, ‘Water Douser’), in the old ‘backwards’ poverty stricken South…Oddly, many folks there tended to live past their 90’s and often in their 100’s…I seriously doubt many of them ever heard of chlorine - in fact, some might likely have called it a useless yankee trick - lol!!
It truly amazing just how distant we’ve strayed from our roots…
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04/20/23 08:40pm |
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RE: How do you sanitize your fresh-water tank and lines?

Bobbo said:
“Do you not feel the water heater needs disinfecting too? Some water sits in it all winter.”
If you want to disinfect it, just turn it on for an hour or two…
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04/20/23 08:06pm |
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RE: Just curious

Careful Mark, you might ‘trigger’ him - lol ??!!
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04/20/23 07:34pm |
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RE: How do you sanitize your fresh-water tank and lines?

Never done it in 14 years - I can visually see up close both ends of the fresh tank and it is still spotless
My eyes aren't as good as yours. I can't see bacteria.
BTW, cith water has chlorine in it and apparently this is enough to do the job…
All campgrounds don't have chlorinated water supplies.
OP, I think most folks, including myself, sanitize our RV water tanks periodically. Once or twice a year for me.
I use either bleach or Purogene. Bleach is cheap, but caustic as hell. Purogene is pricey but easy on people.
For a typical 50ppm bleach sanitize, it's 1/4 cup bleach per 15 gal of holding tank capacity and let sit for 4 hours. For a stronger (100 ppm) concentration, it's 1/2 cup bleach per 15 gal and let it sit 1 hour.
Finally, you'll probably get some interesting rationale from folks who never sanitize their water tanks like . . .
- "I haven't gotten sick yet." (Also a popular excuse for smokers.)
- "I used to drink out of a water hose when I was a kid" (What this has to do with tank sanitation still escapes me.)
Okay Fair enough (though from my perspective, a bit of myopic hyperbole :R…), but we fill the tank before each outing with pre-chlorinated city water, and we drink only bottled R.O. (reverse osmosis) processed water, and if you care to think about it (whether at home or not…) chlorine is a very effective and economical water disinfectant which has benefited the entire world (especially, due to economics, the third world), but chlorine is also a known well established carcinogen (though this fact is mostly dismissed - possibly a mere case of ignorance is bliss??…), whereby the bulk of one’s exposure occurs through directly the derma (skin) when bathing… So in my view, rather than paint with such a broad brush (facts matter, eh?), in my judgement each person need be aware of this risk and (based on information) chose whatever the best informed option of their own choice - FWIW, this may contrary to conventional wholesale wisdom…
I would also add here that the chlorine in city water tends to evaporate from a storage tank in about 30 or so minutes, we see the same thing happening in swimming pools as well…
Upon re-read, Techwriter also wrote: “My eyes aren't as good as yours. I can't see bacteria.”…..
Well, this migh surprise some but there’s about 2 billion bacteria within the human body’s interstitial fluids alone, all of which are in circulation and are beneficial (by design, ingesting toxins)… Point being (ego aside - lol) is that we are all just another part of this vast biosphere…
Thanks in advance ‘for tolerating’ this opposing point of view…
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04/20/23 07:00pm |
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RE: Micro Air

MNRon said:
“3Tons - thanks, I’ve thought about just putting a Magnum bypass in to allow direct running of AC from genny. I think your solution is more elegant. Still I haven’t given up with futzing with current hardware instead of adding more…. Frankly not sure if I had spent more on a Honda I might not have been aware of this idiosyncrasy. Not sure if I’ll keep messing around or maybe make a hardware change… “
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Well, my Xantrex pass-thru ProSine is truly ‘chock full’ of programmability, and I tried every about program work-around I could think of - that’s when I decided to try a autoformer (between the genny and inverter), but once the air conditioner got warmed-up (say after 20 min or so…) the autoformer made no difference…
It was a most perplexing matter (ugg…), one which only happened when attempting to run the genny in the more desirable, quieter, but somewhat sluggish ‘eco mode’…Then by happenstance it finally occurred to me that the inverter might just be ‘doing it’s job’ as a incoming power sentry, and all along, this had been the actual root cause of the maddening inverter in & out again cycling…
From my way too many exhaustive hours of non-productive frustration, programming bandaids wouldn’t work - I very much doubt that there’s a ‘more appropriate’ fix than to simply bypass the inverter…JMHO
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04/20/23 05:35pm |
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RE: NorCal Mini Truck Camper Rally - April 2023

Thanks Mike, I will unpack our whacker!
Sounds like it will be a great weekend!
Looking fwd to the visit!
Leave here around 11 tomorrow.
Jim n Sheila
We’ll be right close by, keep an eye out for our taillights - lol!!
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04/20/23 04:09pm |
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RE: Micro Air

MNRon said:
“ All of that background is to provide my experience with Westinghouse/Magnum (in)compatibility and to ask if you have other thoughts on my experience. I suspect Honda does much better with surge droop so you may never have seen this. Thoughts?…”
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I had the same nagging problem when trying to run the air conditioner (with MicroAir) from a portable generator (while in ‘eco mode’), while using a pass-thru inverter and 400a/h of lithium batteries…
After a whole bunch of time consuming test-trials (including trying an Autoformer to little if any avail…), it turned out that the inverter was seeing the generator (only while in eco mode) as a defective power source and continually taking over the full load…
Ultimately (ugg!), the real solution was to simply bypass the finicky inverter by adding another ATS switch just ahead of the air conditioner with it’s own dedicated plug-in generator power cord…In this way, the inverter can continue to be used, independent of the air conditioner or generator, and were the generator to suddenly quit running, the inverter (if in standby…) would (via this ATS Switch) simply take over the air conditioning load without any sinusoidal conflicts…
Hope this helps,
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04/20/23 03:46pm |
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RE: How do you sanitize your fresh-water tank and lines?

Never done it in 14 years - I can visually see up close both ends of the fresh tank and it is still spotless…BTW, cith water has chlorine in it and apparently this is enough to do the job…
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04/20/23 01:22pm |
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RE: Just curious

Holy fawk….this discussion is sillier than the camper soap thread!
Awe shucks Gritdog (LMAO!), just another dimension that awaits your conquering !! ;)
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04/20/23 08:07am |
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RE: Just curious

Anyone out there drink the water out of their fresh water tank??
NOPE.
Bottled water only, either from the store or containers I will up at home and then haul camping with me.
Water from the fresh tank made me sick once, so I stopped drinking from the fresh tank probably 15 years ago.
X2, all water is wet (seems to satisfy most…), but when it comes to one’s health, all water sources are not created equal, however, what’s less obvious is this can lead into a very deep topic, lol - beyond the recognized three phases of matter, there’s even a fourth ionic-structured phase of naturally occurring water…My experience was in the manufacture of hydrogen where water was produced as a necessary byproduct - this was where I first began to take more than a cursory interest in water… FWIW, in our case we only go with Reverse Osmosis water which (in health matters) is considered a solvent…
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04/19/23 09:12am |
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